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re: The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo {2011}
Posted on 12/24/11 at 12:36 pm to Titleist72
Posted on 12/24/11 at 12:36 pm to Titleist72
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Beginning was a little confusing
Yeah...I couldn't remember the names and how each were related to the missing girl/woman. It really screwed me up at the end when they started spilling the names again and I couldn't remember who these people were
quote:
Saw the movie with my mom
that had to be awkward
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Posted on 12/24/11 at 1:37 pm to GonzoLeslie
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Remaking a movie that had international success and hasn't been out for 4 years... Cash in hollywood!!
you're reaching big time....
quote:Agreed, this trilogy needed to reach a wider audience imo. Plus, it's got people interested in the novels.
This movie was very good, so it was worth filming no matter when the Swedish one was done.
This post was edited on 12/24/11 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 12/24/11 at 5:07 pm to GonzoLeslie
quote:Yep, Hollywood pandering. Won't be seeing this film. Everyone on here will piss their pants when Hollywood remakes Red Dawn but it's okay to remake an already good movie so Americans don't have to (gasp!) read subtitles. I guess remaking old movies we love is just "reaching a wider audience" too, amirite?
Remaking a movie that had international success and hasn't been out for 4 years... Cash in hollywood!!
Also, a good read
Posted on 12/24/11 at 5:25 pm to Blue Velvet
quote:sounds like you just want something to complain about.
Blue Velvet
Posted on 12/24/11 at 5:46 pm to JBeam
quote:Sounds like you have no rebuttal. It must be hard to grasp differing opinions.
sounds like you just want something to complain about
Posted on 12/24/11 at 6:04 pm to Blue Velvet
quote:not really, but you're completely trashing the film even before seeing it. Alll because it's an American version.
Sounds like you have no rebuttal. It must be hard to grasp differing opinions.
fwiw, I recently watched the swedish version on netflix. Very good film
Posted on 12/24/11 at 6:18 pm to JBeam
quote:Not trashing it; I bet it's a pretty good movie. It's not because it's American, it could be any language and I would be disappointed in the level of pandering. I only saw the first Swedish movie so I can't testify to the second and third films which may not be good. However, the first Swedish film was good and didn't need a remake. I'll probably see the new one in the future but I refuse to pay for it and reward the choice to make this film.
not really, but you're completely trashing the film even before seeing it. Alll because it's an American version.
Not flaming, but did you read the link I posted? Would like an opinion of someone who saw the new one and the old.
Posted on 12/25/11 at 7:02 pm to JBeam
Opinion Question?
Should I read the novel AFTER watching the film?
or
Should I just continue the series (Girl who played with fire)
Should I read the novel AFTER watching the film?
or
Should I just continue the series (Girl who played with fire)
Posted on 12/25/11 at 10:53 pm to Blue Velvet
Rapace was definitely better than Mara IMO.
I thought Rapace came off more damaged with her lack of emotion which was a big difference between the two versions.
I never got a chance to read the books; however, Mara's portrayal feels too similar to not be based off of Rapace's character. I admit I could be wrong and they could have both come to similar conclusions of the character from the book.
Even though both films did something better than the other I think the original was a better film.
I thought Rapace came off more damaged with her lack of emotion which was a big difference between the two versions.
I never got a chance to read the books; however, Mara's portrayal feels too similar to not be based off of Rapace's character. I admit I could be wrong and they could have both come to similar conclusions of the character from the book.
Even though both films did something better than the other I think the original was a better film.
This post was edited on 12/25/11 at 11:34 pm
Posted on 12/25/11 at 11:28 pm to Titleist72
quote:definitely this.
Should I read the novel AFTER watching the film?
Posted on 12/26/11 at 7:34 am to Blue Velvet
quote:Pretty poor reason to not see it imo - there's nothing wrong with the general idea of remakes - often times movies get shown with a different interpretation and can actually be improved.
Not trashing it; I bet it's a pretty good movie. It's not because it's American, it could be any language and I would be disappointed in the level of pandering
quote:I read it, and it was a good read - I haven't seen either the Swedish or US film yet, so I can't comment (seeing US version tomorrow) - Salander's character would seem contradictory if they portrayed her with more sex appeal, so I can see that point. But have you read the book?
did you read the link I posted?
Don't let one critic's opinion of what they did with her character sway your opinion on this without having read it and then seeing it for yourself - many other critics thought she gave a great interpretation to the character.
Posted on 12/26/11 at 8:27 am to Blue Velvet
quote:I disagree with this criticism from the link - while Lisbeth's character in the story does react more than she instigates and never hurts an innocent person, Bjurman's character represents the "system" that has mistreated her for her entire life.
Bjurman starts off warm and seemingly logical. In comparison, Lisbeth appears like a rude, antisocial child spurning honest help. Mara’s version snarls before he gives her reason to. When she then gets attacked in the subway, it’s not a physical, sexual attack; one man merely steals her bag.
This is a subtle but important difference. Rapace reacts rather than instigates
Even though Bjurman may be nice to her initially (and thus wouldn't yet earn her scorn), he is an official actor of the state, and is automatically untrustworthy to Lisbeth. She was the same way to Palmgren initially, one of the only people who had actually cared about her during her life, b/c he was in the same position.
Anyway, I enjoyed the link and there are a lot of valid criticisms of the film apparently (again, I haven't seen it yet) - but I think the author missed the point on this one.
Posted on 12/26/11 at 10:30 am to NaturalBeam
Seen both, and liked the American version better.
I like foreign films. I just think a lot of dialogue is lost in translation. Not to mention you spend a lot of the movie staring at the bottom of the screen instead of at the actors, cinematography, etc.
Mara was great. Incredibly sexy in her own way, too.
I like foreign films. I just think a lot of dialogue is lost in translation. Not to mention you spend a lot of the movie staring at the bottom of the screen instead of at the actors, cinematography, etc.
Mara was great. Incredibly sexy in her own way, too.
Posted on 12/26/11 at 10:33 am to YumYum Sauce
The Swedish version, the whole trilogy was excellent. Not that interested in the American version.
Posted on 12/26/11 at 10:40 am to YumYum Sauce
quote:I really don't see how the dialogue was lost in this film.
I like foreign films. I just think a lot of dialogue is lost in translation. Not to mention you spend a lot of the movie staring at the bottom of the screen instead of at the actors, cinematography, etc.
Posted on 12/26/11 at 10:51 am to JBeam
quote:
Should I read the novel AFTER watching the film?
definitely this.
I just finished the book this morning - anxious to see the film.
Posted on 12/26/11 at 11:15 am to JBeam
word usage, translations, etc.
thinks said in another language read differently in your own.
also miss out on humor
thinks said in another language read differently in your own.
also miss out on humor
Posted on 12/26/11 at 11:45 am to YumYum Sauce
I assume he is but, is Fincher locked in to do the next two?
Posted on 12/26/11 at 12:14 pm to TreyAnastasio
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I assume he is but, is Fincher locked in to do the next two?
he said only if this one is a success.
:SpoilerPic:
i had a big problem with the ending. salander becomes a love sick puppy, instead of still being cold and reserved towards craig. the original film (i never read the book) did it a bit better with her helping him and then just leaving. she maintains her position of dominance instead of being portrayed as "weaker"
This post was edited on 12/26/11 at 12:15 pm
Posted on 12/26/11 at 12:29 pm to BlacknGold
quote:It sounds like the American version followed the book more closely than the Swedish version did then, fwiw.
i had a big problem with the ending. salander becomes a love sick puppy, instead of still being cold and reserved towards craig. the original film (i never read the book) did it a bit better with her helping him and then just leaving. she maintains her position of dominance instead of being portrayed as "weaker"
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