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re: The Walking Dead
Posted on 12/6/10 at 8:31 am to Mavtiger
Posted on 12/6/10 at 8:31 am to Mavtiger
I like how his explanation of why things died off was that we simply ran out of power. Some thought that was political, but it makes sense...most of us rely on electricity/fuels for pretty much everything in our lives. So something as simple as power grids faltering can essentially bring down the world (at least most of it). I thought that was pretty cool, because it's kinda true.
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Posted on 12/6/10 at 8:38 am to CocomoLSU
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I just didn't understand the whole "Well, we're out of fuel now, so now everything gets incinerated" thought process
The writers had to get the jab in running the world on "fossil fuel". I would figure a underground government facility would have fuel tanks to supply fuel for at least 6 months. The Doc said he should have studied engineering to load manage. Why didn't VI have the ability to do this all along? SOrt of inconsistant.
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I laughed my arse off when Darryl and Rick (I think) were killing the window with axes, and then the black dude runs up and is like "Those axes aren't working, but this chair might..."
No shite that was a WTF funny scene.
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I had a gripe with the CDC bomb
It was an underground facility. 100'? That may have contained the expolsion.
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I also agree on teh black chick (Jackie?).
That would be Jacqui and I am glad that triangle head alien looking bitch is gone.
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Finally, I hate that it's finally over.
Same here. The comics are on my christmas list. My wife rolled her eyes.
Posted on 12/6/10 at 8:43 am to Beachtiger
I just wanted to pop in and say how pissed I am that I have to wait for this to come on next October, considering most shows on TV are absolute crap. This was one I finally enjoyed and got into and looked forward to on Sundays.
AND that I think I will be asking Santa for the comics. I can't believe what a nerd I've become over this series.
AND that I think I will be asking Santa for the comics. I can't believe what a nerd I've become over this series.
Posted on 12/6/10 at 8:48 am to CocomoLSU
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I just didn't understand the whole "Well, we're out of fuel now, so now everything gets incinerated" thought process.
That was a precaution built in for non-apocalyptic scenarios. It was to safeguard so that all the diseases being researched didn't get out in the case of a power failure since all of the automated safety processes would be disabled.
Posted on 12/6/10 at 9:03 am to CocomoLSU
I think this last episode had some flaws, particularly with how rushed it was to reach resolution, but overall, I'd give positive marks to the whole first season. The show mus improve, but no show hits its stride in the first season with only a few exceptions. I'd also like to say I'm very ahppy CajunRevolution is not a writer for the show because I think his suggestions were uniformly terrible. I love the zombie stuff, but without human drama, the show has no point.
Cocomo had a ton of great points, and I want to address a few of them.
Cocomo had a ton of great points, and I want to address a few of them.
quote:He's also been on his own for a month, steadily losing any hope of survival. He mentions that his sleep patterns are messed up, so he's not only going stir crazy, he's likely fatigued. People make mistakes. I have no problem with this.
I rewatched the end of the previous episode, and right before the decontamination of the fresh brain tissue, he actually was testing shite, and spilled some of the liquid onto his finger. You'd think that as a doctor at the CDfrickingC, he'd be a little more careful.
quote:I snipped the whole quote, but I'm more concerned with the attempted rape. Look, Shane has come off rather poorly, and he should back down when Rick shows up, but I didn't think he was an evil guy. They are trying to portray him as this villain, and that's a shame. He could be a fascinating conflicted guy, who lost everything twice, but making him a straight villain is a total lost opportunity. The character can be salvaged, but more scenes like the glance at the table and less rape scenes and aiming to kill Rick.
Good to see Shane come off a little better and getting some redemption at the beginning.
quote:This is the part of the show I grant dramatic license. He did run right away, the camera just lingered. I'm not going to get up in arms on the cover they took. They weren't in the open, that's good enough for me in a TV show. I'm not asking for a show on military tactics.
The grenade part...first of all, why they wouldn't all hide behind those stairs is beyond me. I mean, the asian kid actually just laid down on the floor for "protection." And Rick, once you flip the grenade on, fricking run, you dumbass.
quote:The explosion was entirely underground. the blast radius would go up before being able to go out, and would lose some of its force. We don't know how deep they were either. I'm not that concerned with that either. Once again... TV. Let a few things slide.
I had a gripe with the CDC bomb. Vi said it was "almost as powerful as a nuclear bomb" (I think she said something almost exactly to those words). Yet when it went off, only the CDC building went down. The whole group sitting basically on the road in front of the place seemed a bit unbelievable to me.
quote:SOMEONE had to choose to die. It was set up to be a choice and without anyone choosing to die, it wouldn't make narrative sense. Jackie was as good as any.
Thought it was bogus that she chose to die, especially considering that she's seemed like a bit of a fighter up until that point. That was weak.
quote:Yup.
The Dylan song at the end was awesome.
Posted on 12/6/10 at 9:08 am to Beachtiger
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The writers had to get the jab in running the world on "fossil fuel".
See, I didn't take that as a political jab at all really, because it's true. If shite hit the fan tomorrow, the world would struggle to function sans electricity and fuel. I'm not saying that every person would fail at it (clearly a lot of us in this thread know what's up), but the vast majority of people would be lost without the shite we depend on day in and day out.
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I would figure a underground government facility would have fuel tanks to supply fuel for at least 6 months.
It did though. It's been about six months since shite hit the fan, right? And Doc has been by himself for about the last month. So the generators were finally running out of fuel. Sounds about right.
I actually wondered about the power at the facility before they addressed it, and I was wondering if a place like CDC would maybe have some kind of generators in place that would last almost indefinitely (natural gas? even maybe small nuclear power source?). But apparently it's just gas (or diesel).
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It was an underground facility. 100'? That may have contained the expolsion.
That's true. I wasn't thinking they were underground really. Still prolly should have killed people who were like 50 yards from the front door though.
Posted on 12/6/10 at 9:11 am to ProjectP2294
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That was a precaution built in for non-apocalyptic scenarios. It was to safeguard so that all the diseases being researched didn't get out in the case of a power failure since all of the automated safety processes would be disabled.
I understand that, but I mean more in terms of the doctor. I know that there are safety procedures and shite built into systems like the CDC, but Doc just condemning everyone there to incendiary death just seemed weird to me. Also, seems like he maybe could have overturned that at some point (but that's just speculation on my part).
Posted on 12/6/10 at 9:19 am to Baloo
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He's also been on his own for a month, steadily losing any hope of survival. He mentions that his sleep patterns are messed up, so he's not only going stir crazy, he's likely fatigued. People make mistakes. I have no problem with this.
True, but there are certain instances where mistakes should never be made. And in a CDC lab with highly contagious shite is one of those instances IMO. You have to be overly careful because of the importance and danger of what you're dealing with. Just seemed like careless mistakes, as opposed to fatigue-driven ones.
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Look, Shane has come off rather poorly, and he should back down when Rick shows up, but I didn't think he was an evil guy. They are trying to portray him as this villain, and that's a shame. He could be a fascinating conflicted guy, who lost everything twice, but making him a straight villain is a total lost opportunity. The character can be salvaged, but more scenes like the glance at the table and less rape scenes and aiming to kill Rick.
I agree with that. They are making him out to be an evil person. When in actuality, he should be someone, like you said, who has had to lose everything twice. We expect him to be conflicted with the whole Rick/wifey thing, no doubt. But the whole almost-rape thing and the whole "I'm about to shoot Rick in the forest" thing just seem out of place. Even though I don't really like Shane, I was hoping they'd give him some sort of redemption...which they did at the beginning. But then they straight up erased it all with the drunken scene. And that's something that can't be forgiven with a throw-away "yeah, I wasn't myself last night" kind of line the next morning.
And I definitely let things slide, especially with a TV show. It's not gripes as much as it's just me listing shite I wish could have been a little differently (like the grenade), or things that I thought were funny (like the chair thing). Those kinds of things are superficial to me with a show like this, and they definitely don't ruin it for me at all.
Posted on 12/6/10 at 9:24 am to CocomoLSU
I totally agree the chair thing was funny. And I didn't think you were saying it ruined the show, and like I said, you brought up great points. I was just giving my defense of some of the flaws. Which admittedly, are flaws.
Posted on 12/6/10 at 9:33 am to CocomoLSU
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It's been about six months since shite hit the fan, right?
I'd say six months since it started and 60 days since everthing went tits up. At the 60 day mark I would conclude that utilities would be lost and the facility would switch to in house power supply.
Didn't the Doc say that they were at a the zone 5 facility? I guess it is reasonable to assume that there are at least 4 other CDC facilities. Maybe that was what he was telling Rick
Posted on 12/6/10 at 9:39 am to Baloo
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I'm very ahppy CajunRevolution is not a writer for the show because I think his suggestions were uniformly terrible
The only suggestion I had was kill weak minded Andrea off and stop with the whole dramatic relationship bullshite; which we all know will end with a fight, someone being alienated from the group, and either dying/going separate ways.
I'm sorry but if that's the frame of mind you're looking for this show then let me suggest a good Soap Opera for you. And by all accounts from those that read the fricking comics...those two elements were written into the show.
Posted on 12/6/10 at 9:42 am to Cajun Revolution
Loved the show. It sucks we have to wait until Fall 2011 to see Season 2.
Posted on 12/6/10 at 9:53 am to Baloo
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I'd also like to say I'm very ahppy CajunRevolution is not a writer for the show because I think his suggestions were uniformly terrible
Seriously your bluntness made me
Posted on 12/6/10 at 10:07 am to Superior Pariah
Well, I was gonna address each point, but I decided this way was funnier and more direct. All drama is about human relationships (well, not all... but most, and definitely this one). The Rick-Shane dynamic is being slightly bungled by the staff (as I discussed with cocomo), but the elimination of the tension is the worst possible solution.
And a group of bad asses would be too boring to contempate. If its just human v zombie, the show breaks down really quickly. It has to be about the relationships between the survivors to maintain dramatic tension.
And a group of bad asses would be too boring to contempate. If its just human v zombie, the show breaks down really quickly. It has to be about the relationships between the survivors to maintain dramatic tension.
Posted on 12/6/10 at 10:09 am to Baloo
wtf ever happened to Merle and the black guy and his kid?
Posted on 12/6/10 at 10:36 am to rondo
the CDC arc was nearly a complete waste. if the crew had decided to go elsewhere and skip the CDC completely, the only thing that would be different is alien head would still be alive.
what was really the point? they only know slightly more than they did prior to the trip.
i'm glad the writing staff got sacked. whoever gets to come in for Season 2 walks into a cherry gig. Excellent source material, lots of buzz, apparently a good budget, good network with original series that run for years, and you have a great shot at improving the show after the last set of scrubs.
what was really the point? they only know slightly more than they did prior to the trip.
i'm glad the writing staff got sacked. whoever gets to come in for Season 2 walks into a cherry gig. Excellent source material, lots of buzz, apparently a good budget, good network with original series that run for years, and you have a great shot at improving the show after the last set of scrubs.
Posted on 12/6/10 at 10:52 am to rondo
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wtf ever happened to Merle and the black guy and his kid?
Show's not over yet.
Posted on 12/6/10 at 11:07 am to Superior Pariah
This show is going to end up like heroes. Great first season and then it's going to fall off. That last episode was so dumb. It's just getting so damn cheesy.
The whole CDC computer voice thing was so freaking stupid. It's like something dreamed up from an 80's sci fi movie that is not practical and would not be in place there. Also, a self destruct sequence at the CDC? Are you freaking kidding me?
The whole CDC computer voice thing was so freaking stupid. It's like something dreamed up from an 80's sci fi movie that is not practical and would not be in place there. Also, a self destruct sequence at the CDC? Are you freaking kidding me?
Posted on 12/6/10 at 11:15 am to SUB
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Also, a self destruct sequence at the CDC? Are you freaking kidding me?
Given the nature of the shite they work with there, I don't see why that's so improbable
Posted on 12/6/10 at 11:29 am to ISDSTiger
mehhh final episode. didn't answer as much as I would have liked and more soap opera drama, nevertheless guess that's how they bring us back next October. thoughts:
- I'm not sure Rick's son will ever be the badass in my mind he should be. he shoulda drank that shot of wine and told Rick, "poor me another bitch"
- Andrea. I wish she would have let them know earlier on in the season she was fine with dying because nothing is left. I would have certainly taken that opportunity to put a bullet between her eyes and ended her miserable pathetic boohoo'ing life.
- Vi. Come on really. Sweet 1980's AI talking computer shite. Yet, the Doc is still using ancient technology of the vide camera to record his findings.
- Shane. No means no you fricking creeper. You ain't getting those goodies no mo. I don't understand why shane has to fly off the handle and be portrayed as such a badass all the time. I thought thats who BoonDock was.
- Black man with chair. Haha, best part of the episode. Rick and Boondock can't even knick the glass with axes and here you come with a fricking chair. Thought to myself, "Ohhh crazy black man"
- Again, there are fricking tanks, hum-v's and the Doc himself said there were weapons available in the area. Yet you fricking leave without even scavenging. frick that. I'm building up a mobil armory.
Can't wait to know what the Doc told Rick. I really hope it's not that wifey is preggers and shano is the dad. only more drama.
- I'm not sure Rick's son will ever be the badass in my mind he should be. he shoulda drank that shot of wine and told Rick, "poor me another bitch"
- Andrea. I wish she would have let them know earlier on in the season she was fine with dying because nothing is left. I would have certainly taken that opportunity to put a bullet between her eyes and ended her miserable pathetic boohoo'ing life.
- Vi. Come on really. Sweet 1980's AI talking computer shite. Yet, the Doc is still using ancient technology of the vide camera to record his findings.
- Shane. No means no you fricking creeper. You ain't getting those goodies no mo. I don't understand why shane has to fly off the handle and be portrayed as such a badass all the time. I thought thats who BoonDock was.
- Black man with chair. Haha, best part of the episode. Rick and Boondock can't even knick the glass with axes and here you come with a fricking chair. Thought to myself, "Ohhh crazy black man"
- Again, there are fricking tanks, hum-v's and the Doc himself said there were weapons available in the area. Yet you fricking leave without even scavenging. frick that. I'm building up a mobil armory.
Can't wait to know what the Doc told Rick. I really hope it's not that wifey is preggers and shano is the dad. only more drama.
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