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re: THR Article: Is Disney Bad at Star Wars? An Analysis
Posted on 10/4/24 at 12:36 pm to ThoseGuys
Posted on 10/4/24 at 12:36 pm to ThoseGuys
quote:False.
The Jedi were mistaken by thinking "bring balance to the Force" meant getting rid of the Sith. That's not balance. Balance means they are equal.
Search that up. George explained that the light side is harmony, and the dark side is chaos. Bringing the Force in balance means eliminating the Dark Side.
ETA: here you go:
LINK
quote:
Balance in Star Wars means eliminating dark side selfishness, fear, and hate - the true focus is on light side harmony.
This post was edited on 10/4/24 at 12:40 pm
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Posted on 10/4/24 at 12:46 pm to Roaad
quote:
Destroying Palpatine to save his son redeemed Anakin after he brought about the rise by sparing him. Even without the prophecy it was a closed loop Then JJ decided, let's shite all over that.
You said it made his redemption meaningless, but you’re still talking about the PT.
From 1983 when ROTJ came out, to 2005, when ROTS came out, there was no prophecy, there was no closed loop. But there still was meaning and there still was redemption.
Posted on 10/4/24 at 12:48 pm to Roaad
I know that’s the official explanation.
I do think it is a worse explanation than the prophecy being misleading, and the Jedi’s actions to bring about this prophecy leads to it being fulfilled itself in an unexpected way.
Thats a classic literary trope.
I do think it is a worse explanation than the prophecy being misleading, and the Jedi’s actions to bring about this prophecy leads to it being fulfilled itself in an unexpected way.
Thats a classic literary trope.
Posted on 10/4/24 at 1:52 pm to SammyTiger
Yeah I can see I was wrong with it, because now George Lucas admits the whole prophecy thing is unfulfilled for the PT. So the main central point of 3 movies and it is a big ol' red herring that was originally resolved in the OT.
Posted on 10/4/24 at 1:57 pm to ThoseGuys
I think it is extremely misleading to
1.establish a dichotomy as distinct and we’ll know as the light and dark sides of the force
2. introduce a prophecy that discusses balance
3. have that balance actually mean that you’d do away with 1 side.
1.establish a dichotomy as distinct and we’ll know as the light and dark sides of the force
2. introduce a prophecy that discusses balance
3. have that balance actually mean that you’d do away with 1 side.
Posted on 10/4/24 at 2:26 pm to RLDSC FAN
quote:
The prequels are mostly bad. People hate Disney SW so we have a lot of revisionist history when it comes to the prequels. They were hated by almost everyone back then. I like Sith, even though Vader's turn was laughably bad. The Phantom Menace and AOTC are awful films.
All of this is correct.
Posted on 10/4/24 at 2:39 pm to SammyTiger
quote:
3. have that balance actually mean that you’d do away with 1 side.
I agree.
I think people, like the jedi, misinterpret what he's trying to say when he says eliminate the dark side.
It's not so much to eliminate it, as it is to control it and not succomb to it. You can't get rid of the temptation of the dark side. It's always there. The "balance" is to be in control of that temptation as a jedi.
The Son and Daughter were the light and dark, but were being controlled by the Father so that Son couldn't rise to power. The Father was the one doing the balancing of the force, controlling the power of his Son, the dark side. And that's where Anakin belongs, at that same seat the Father had so he can fulfill the prophecy and bring true balance to the force, keeping the dark side under control now that he has wielded both the light and dark, and now has overcome the dark side. Ezra should be taking the Son's place, as he has learned to control the dark side as well, and Ahsoka should take the Daughters spot as the Light.
Posted on 10/4/24 at 2:47 pm to UGATiger26
quote:
think the biggest part of the problem is that creators have forgotten what good storytelling even looks like. Or they never learned what good storytelling is in the first place.
I think they are told to create content based on messaging. Period.
Posted on 10/4/24 at 4:08 pm to SammyTiger
quote:He didn't end Palpatine because he wanted to fulfill a prophecy
I know that’s the official explanation.
He did it because Palps was killing Luke, and threatening to turn Leia. His love for family turned him back to the light side, which closed the loop, as his fear for his family (Padme), turned him to the dark
Posted on 10/4/24 at 4:09 pm to ThoseGuys
He ends up fulfilling in in Return
Posted on 10/4/24 at 4:14 pm to SammyTiger
quote:Like I explained to you in the Acolyte thread, it is because fan fic writers and theorists screwed people all up.
3. have that balance actually mean that you’d do away with 1 side.
The dark side isn't a natural side of the force
it is a perversion and a corruption of the light side of the force.
It is like if I put motor oil in your coffee. It doesn't become a different side of coffee. . .and the way you get coffee back is to remove the motor oil.
Not sure how well that analogy holds up, but yeah
This post was edited on 10/4/24 at 4:16 pm
Posted on 10/4/24 at 4:15 pm to TeddyPadillac
quote:actually incorrect. see above
I think people, like the jedi, misinterpret what he's trying to say when he says eliminate the dark side.
It's not so much to eliminate it, as it is to control it and not succomb to it.
Posted on 10/4/24 at 4:37 pm to Roaad
I understand the explanation.
I just think it’s poor writing if you need to explain it outside the movies.
which he did for the reasons I said.
Like clearly the jedi wouldn’t want balance with the sith.
they would want the sith gone.
There is a duality of man, which is why Jesus didn’t talk about balance.
I just think it’s poor writing if you need to explain it outside the movies.
which he did for the reasons I said.
Like clearly the jedi wouldn’t want balance with the sith.
they would want the sith gone.
There is a duality of man, which is why Jesus didn’t talk about balance.
This post was edited on 10/4/24 at 4:38 pm
Posted on 10/4/24 at 4:53 pm to SammyTiger
He's explained THAT, too
He doesn't want the Force itself canonically explained. He just explains it's aspects and how users interact with it generally.
He doesn't want the Force itself canonically explained. He just explains it's aspects and how users interact with it generally.
Posted on 10/4/24 at 5:01 pm to Roaad
Yeah the movie from the 80's. So why did we need 3 more movies about this? What did we learn from these movies we didn't already have knowledge of before?
I didn't need them to explain why Solo was called that. I didn't need them to explain why Indy has his hat and whip. And I sure don't need 3 movies to explain why Vader joined the Dark Side. I already knew the Republic failed and the Empire rose to power.
The movies resolved absolutely nothing. In fact you need to watch the OT to even get closure on the main plot point.
I didn't need them to explain why Solo was called that. I didn't need them to explain why Indy has his hat and whip. And I sure don't need 3 movies to explain why Vader joined the Dark Side. I already knew the Republic failed and the Empire rose to power.
The movies resolved absolutely nothing. In fact you need to watch the OT to even get closure on the main plot point.
Posted on 10/4/24 at 5:19 pm to ThoseGuys
quote:the PT isn't about the prophecy
Yeah the movie from the 80's. So why did we need 3 more movies about this? What did we learn from these movies we didn't already have knowledge of before?
It is about the rise and fall of Anakin, the collapse of the Republic, and the destruction of the Jedi Order.
Prophecy is just an Easter egg for return.
quote:while released as trilogies, it is a 6-parter, released in 3's
The movies resolved absolutely nothing. In fact you need to watch the OT to even get closure on the main plot point.
This post was edited on 10/4/24 at 5:23 pm
Posted on 10/4/24 at 5:22 pm to Roaad
quote:
He's explained THAT, too
Again, if everyone misses your point and you have to explain it,’it says something about your writing not the viewers.
This post was edited on 10/4/24 at 5:23 pm
Posted on 10/4/24 at 5:29 pm to SammyTiger
Most people got it, though
Lucas is not a great writer, nobody would argue he is. . He is just waaaaaaaay better than Abrams, Johnson, and Headband.
What he is great at, is innovation, world-building, direction, and storytelling.
Lucas is not a great writer, nobody would argue he is. . He is just waaaaaaaay better than Abrams, Johnson, and Headband.
What he is great at, is innovation, world-building, direction, and storytelling.
Posted on 10/4/24 at 7:27 pm to Roaad
if Lucas wasn’t a good storyteller we wouldn’t be talking about this.
But I also think he has some really rough movies.
the Prequels have a basic structure laid out: how did Anakin become Darth Vader.
How we got there was not great.
But I also think he has some really rough movies.
the Prequels have a basic structure laid out: how did Anakin become Darth Vader.
How we got there was not great.
Posted on 10/4/24 at 7:31 pm to SammyTiger
quote:that is a third of the basic story
the Prequels have a basic structure laid out: how did Anakin become Darth Vader.
Anakin/Vader
Republic/Empire
Jedi/Sith
quote:Not great, but passably good to really good
How we got there was not great.
Episode 1 was good, 2 was passable, 3 was really good
This post was edited on 10/4/24 at 7:33 pm
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