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re: tOfficial Better Call Saul S09E10 “Nippy” Thread
Posted on 7/27/22 at 3:51 pm to TouchedTheAxeIn82
Posted on 7/27/22 at 3:51 pm to TouchedTheAxeIn82
I saw Jimmy when you rewatch BB..one scene stands out more than others imo..
When he is dropping off money to Jesse’s girl, and convinces him to go talk to her and restart a relationship. He seemed genuinely concerned and wanted to see some good for jesse and that family.
Eta
And the scene (think it was a bonus DVD scene) when saul thought enough of Jesse to warn him that Walter killed Mike's guys. Implying he is getting rid of loose ends and he brought him some protection for himself in case Walter came by.
Eta 2
Think the diamonds were what saul ripped out of the wall in his office? I cant remember how exactly that scene went down. Wish I could give $1000 to just watch the 3 episodes now.
When he is dropping off money to Jesse’s girl, and convinces him to go talk to her and restart a relationship. He seemed genuinely concerned and wanted to see some good for jesse and that family.
Eta
And the scene (think it was a bonus DVD scene) when saul thought enough of Jesse to warn him that Walter killed Mike's guys. Implying he is getting rid of loose ends and he brought him some protection for himself in case Walter came by.
Eta 2
Think the diamonds were what saul ripped out of the wall in his office? I cant remember how exactly that scene went down. Wish I could give $1000 to just watch the 3 episodes now.
This post was edited on 7/27/22 at 4:18 pm
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Posted on 7/27/22 at 4:43 pm to SEClint
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#Better Call Saul 6x11 title revealed:
"BREAKING BAD" written and directed by @TomSchnauz
Posted on 7/27/22 at 4:48 pm to RLDSC FAN
Some of the BB episodes he did too
Posted on 7/27/22 at 5:49 pm to lsufb1912
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She could obviously decide to return to practicing the law at anytime.
Yea... I mean yea sure its POSSIBLE. but it would require a big fat "JUST KIDDING YALL" from VG/PG regarding that quitting law/leaving jimmy scene.
that scene was too important with little screen time left to cheapen with that kind of fake out IMO.
Posted on 7/27/22 at 5:54 pm to SEClint
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He has never hurt anyone else more than he has himself. I think at his core, he is a good man. He's just a great con man because he has had to be one.
Had Chuck been a legit loving brother who wanted to support him and encourage him, and not treat him like an outsider who interrupted the family by being born..things would have been a lot different.
IDK about that he HAD to be a con man. we saw multiple seasons of him doing it for shits and giggles. he IS a con man at heart. there was the whole backstory of his dad being conned so he decided he would be the con man not the conned. its why he has rewatched his old commercials, did that con with jeffie even when he should be laying lower than low...
its just his baser instincts to con. his brother saw him for who he was and didnt want him involved in law where he would have greater power/authority to abuse the system.
Posted on 7/27/22 at 6:17 pm to AMS
Well if we are comparing that to a non-con man in Chuck, Walter, Mike, Gus, Lalo..etc..Jimmy is still the better human being and doesn't deserve the fates that they endured.
If Jesse can find peace and a new beginning on pretty much his own terms, after being a murderer and co drug kingpin..Jimmy deserves one.
If Jesse can find peace and a new beginning on pretty much his own terms, after being a murderer and co drug kingpin..Jimmy deserves one.
Posted on 7/27/22 at 6:25 pm to SEClint
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Jimmy is still the better human being and doesn't deserve the fates that they endured.
he was literally involved in poisoning an innocent child.
helping a murderer/kingpin lalo escape justice.
thoroughly abusing his attorney status.
blackmailing people.
suggested killing jesse
manipulating the elderly for personal payouts.
kinda caused chucks suicide by playing with his mental illness (for personal gain).
was 'slippin jimmy' just conning and robbing random shmucks.
yea some of this he did more out of necessity, but some was pure personal gain and to avoid personal legal repercussions for his actions.
jimmy never was a saint, he wasnt pure evil but hes far from being a good man at heart. his own behavior put him on the bad choice road and led to his fate.
This post was edited on 7/27/22 at 6:27 pm
Posted on 7/27/22 at 6:43 pm to AMS
quote:he literally didn't know a child was going to be poisoned..remember that scene?
he was literally involved in poisoning an innocent child.
quote:Lalo gave him reasons and he wasn't thinking only about himself
helping a murderer/kingpin lalo escape justice
quote:no one is perfect..but even so..the kettlemans? The two skaters? Etc They all deserved it. ONLY person who didn't was Irene. And Saul is the only reason they were going to get a settlement in the first place.
thoroughly abusing his attorney status.
blackmailing people.
quote:after jesse threatened to go to the DEA out of anger and bring everyone down which he eventually did
suggested killing jesse
quote:Everything would have been fine had Chuck and Howard not stole his shite and snubbed him. Jimmy wasn't "their equal", yet they sure don't mind taking his work and exploiting it for a maximum payout..when a lot of the victims don't have years to wait.
manipulating the elderly for personal payouts
quote:I dont feel sorry for Chuck one bit. He got beat and couldn't handle it. He was only a giant in a courtroom..till he wasnt. If you want to talk manipulator, Chuck was great at that too. Probably wanted his death to eat at jimmy tbh.
kinda caused chucks suicide by playing with his mental illness
quote:like assholes who would take a watch off a helpless/dead man?
was 'slippin jimmy' just conning and robbing random shmucks.
quote:so he doesn't deserve the worst possible fate.
jimmy never was a saint, he wasnt pure evil
This post was edited on 7/27/22 at 7:14 pm
Posted on 7/27/22 at 7:26 pm to timlan2057
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Which raises a question. When exactly in the post BB-Gene timeline did that episode of American Greed air?
Also...We know Walter kills all the Nazis on September 7, 2010. The day he turned 52..
Is Gene going to see this on television? It was all over the news for an extended time just from Pete and Badger's reactions..and I'm sure it was on national.
According to those football games him and the cop were talking about, where did Monday's episode put us exactly?
This post was edited on 7/27/22 at 7:29 pm
Posted on 7/27/22 at 7:30 pm to SEClint
I acknowledged he had non-ulterior motives for some of those, but he was still involved and most of it is selfish personal gain.
he was only in that situation because of his own greed. he wanted to be involved to make money. he put himself in the situation for those consequences of complying with lalo.
they deserved it is shite reasoning. people truly good of heart dont dispense their own vigilante justice for personal gain because their victims 'got what they had coming'. he only cared about that irene settlement for his own personal benefit, irene getting paid was just involved in his making money
k, but again. thats personal gain. he did it to avoid personal consequences for his actions. people truly good at heart dont want to kill people to avoid consequences
a repeat of good people dont just go out conning people because they 'deserved it'.
like drunks and loud annoying people, multiple times. also again truly good people dont con others because they deserve it.
so far he has a better fate than most.
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Lalo gave him reasons and he wasn't thinking only about himself
he was only in that situation because of his own greed. he wanted to be involved to make money. he put himself in the situation for those consequences of complying with lalo.
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no one is perfect..but even so..the kettlemans? The two skaters? Etc They all deserved it. ONLY person who didn't was Irene. And Saul is the only reason they were going to get a settlement in the first place.
they deserved it is shite reasoning. people truly good of heart dont dispense their own vigilante justice for personal gain because their victims 'got what they had coming'. he only cared about that irene settlement for his own personal benefit, irene getting paid was just involved in his making money
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after jesse threatened to go to the DEA out of anger and bring everyone down which he eventually did
k, but again. thats personal gain. he did it to avoid personal consequences for his actions. people truly good at heart dont want to kill people to avoid consequences
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I dont feel sorry for Chuck one bit. He got beat and couldn't handle it. He was only a giant in a courtroom..till he wasnt. If you want to talk manipulator, Chuck was great at that too. Probably wanted his death to eat at jimmy tbh.
a repeat of good people dont just go out conning people because they 'deserved it'.
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like assholes who would take a watch off a helpless/dead man?
like drunks and loud annoying people, multiple times. also again truly good people dont con others because they deserve it.
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so he doesn't deserve the worst possible fate.
so far he has a better fate than most.
This post was edited on 7/27/22 at 7:36 pm
Posted on 7/27/22 at 7:44 pm to AMS
quote:The Kettlemans actually deserve worse. Howard deserved less...
they deserved it is shite reasoning
Its Vince's ABQ
we're all just watching the ride lol The one thing that is true that I do know 100% about it, is that those Curly Fries are legit
I think Jimmy needs to take some responsibility and face some music. I want him to find what he considers peace, and to grow. I like him and have never seen him as an antagonist.
quote:A mall Cinnabon in Nebraska..come on
so far he has a better fate than most.
Posted on 7/27/22 at 8:06 pm to SEClint
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I think Jimmy needs to take some responsibility and face some music. I want him to find what he considers peace, and to grow. I like him and have never seen him as an antagonist.
I dont really see anyone as classic antagonist/protagonist in this show. most major players are antagonist-esque altho the closest to a protagonist is hank, but even he is a narc.
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A mall Cinnabon in Nebraska..come on
alive, able to make an honest living, escaped justice. (so far). this is more relative to major players. sure maybe some folks like the kettlemans had a better fate but they were minor.
not too bad considering. it just doesnt live up to his own desires, he wants to con and scheme bc its who he is at heart.
This post was edited on 7/27/22 at 8:07 pm
Posted on 7/27/22 at 8:08 pm to SEClint
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According to those football games him and the cop were talking about, where did Monday's episode put us exactly?
Fall of 2010.
UNL joined the B1G in 2011.
Posted on 7/27/22 at 8:12 pm to BuckyCheese
quote:so all that shite may be right about to happen..im so ready for next weeks episode. I remember gene being afraid of what looked like someone who could be associated with Jacks crew in the mall but he realized he was being paranoid.
Fall of 2010.
I want to see him find out what Walter did and learn of Walter's fate.
This post was edited on 7/27/22 at 8:15 pm
Posted on 7/27/22 at 8:55 pm to SEClint
According to this we are already over a month past Walt's blaze of glory exit.
LINK
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The 2010 Nebraska Cornhuskers season took place from September 4 through December 30. Thanks to Frank, however, we can narrow the dates down even more specifically than that. In his first conversation with Gene, Frank complains about Nebraska’s effort over the weekend in a loss against Texas. In 2010, Nebraska lost to the Texas Longhorns 20-13 on October 16. A little later on, Frank celebrates a win against Oklahoma State. That game occurred on October 23.
It is therefore reasonable to assume that the first scene with Frank takes place on October 17 or 18. We also know that Gene’s scheme lasts through at least October 24. That means that all of Gene’s scenes throughout the entirety of Better Call Saul have taken place over no longer than a six month span from April 2010 through October 2010.
We don’t know precisely when “Nippy” leaves us off in the Gene Takovic timeline but we do know that we’re very close to an important upcoming event. In Better Call Saul season 4 episode 5 “Quite a Ride”, the show opens with the rare midseason flash forward. In it, Francesca helps Saul clean out their office and shred documents as everything figuratively comes crashing down. Before he leaves to become Gene Takovic, Saul asks Francesca to be at a nearby telephone booth at 3 p.m. on November 12, 2010.
LINK
Posted on 7/27/22 at 9:37 pm to SEClint
Upon rewatch...that was really good. The pre show anticipation for something it wasn't should not take away from how good it was summing up "Gene" time. I also listened with headphones this time around and the musical score with layers of tension was spot on.
Posted on 7/27/22 at 9:44 pm to BuckyCheese
They missed an opportunity then lol
Posted on 7/28/22 at 12:39 am to BuckyCheese
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According to this we are already over a month past Walt's blaze of glory exit.
They've shown you enough to figure out whether or not Gene scenes are before or after Walt's death.
They established one clear date in the Gene timeline. Not going to bother explaining. You'll just argue the Earth is flat.
Spoiler alert, We know 100% confirmed Walt was dead before Gene got stuck by the dumpsters.
Only way around that would require Vince/Peter to introduce time travel.
This post was edited on 7/28/22 at 1:04 am
Posted on 7/28/22 at 3:15 am to SEClint
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They missed an opportunity then lol
Another issue with the snow;
Him pushing Burnett in the snow would have had to be before the first game he discussed with the security guard.
Not saying Omaha never gets snow in early Oct, but it's not likely.
Posted on 7/28/22 at 6:15 am to SEClint
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Also...We know Walter kills all the Nazis on September 7, 2010. The day he turned 52.. Is Gene going to see this on television?
According to those football games him and the cop were talking about, where did Monday's episode put us exactly?
Nebraska’s loss to an unranked Texas team which snapped their undefeated string and which Frank remonstrated (“I thought this was the year!”) over with Gene—took place Saturday October 16, 2010.
So Frank and Gene likely had that convo on Sunday October 17 (malls are open on Sundays) or Monday, October 18.
So Walter White’s big shoot ‘em up of the Nazis with the trunk-based M60–and of course, his death—happened 5 weeks earlier and no doubt made national news.
Gene had to be aware and no doubt Walt was on his mind when he told Jeff and the other flunky, “What’s crazy is a 50 year old high school chemistry teacher walking in my office …”
But yes, What was Saul planning eight months ahead with that November phone call to a pay phone back in Albuquerque? Why would Francesa cooperate? She’s hardened and cynical by now and only helped Saul when he forked over a bunch of cash—for her even to dump the shredded docs. (I don’t blame her.)
There has to be some possible big windfall for Francesca for her to cooperate instead of saying “Kiss my arse. I’m not risking my arse helping a wanted fugitive.”
This post was edited on 7/28/22 at 6:21 am
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