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Posted on 1/22/12 at 12:23 pm to
Posted by TigerBandTuba
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Posted on 1/22/12 at 12:23 pm to
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Star Wars has this by a mile
Posted by Starchild
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Posted on 1/22/12 at 12:29 pm to
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LOTR by a mile


And I like Star Wars too. But LOTR is just epic in every sense of the word...great acting, great story, beautiful scenery, great effects...it'll always be one of my favorites
Posted by FootballNostradamus
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Posted on 1/22/12 at 1:52 pm to
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I was six years old when the original Star Wars came out so those movies, (and to a lesser extent Indiana Jones), were big events in my childhood but they're really not close to the quality of LOTR, IMO.




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Lord of the Rings indisputably. Indiana Jones was just a good time and a homage to the early adventure serials. Star Wars fell flat on its face in "Return of the Jedi". LotR however is a masterpiece throughout. I can't name a single major flaw within the films.


You can't think of a single flaw in the LOTR movies? Is that a serious statement? LOTR is a solid trilogy but the epic masterpiece aura it has evolved into is a bit much IMO.

Star Wars has this and it's not debatable. The story is better, the acting is better, the characters are better, and I still don't get the hate for Return of the Jedi. I thought it was an awesome ending, flame away.
Posted by LSUtigersarefun
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Posted on 1/22/12 at 1:56 pm to
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Can already tell this will devolve into another LOTR vs Star Wars thread. But Star Wars has this by a mile. While LOTR was shot and directed well, there just wasn't enough source material to make 3 3-hour movies about people walking interesting throughout. Unless you find gay sexual tension exciting.

I agree with this.
Hell I would honestly rather watch the matrix trilogy than have to sit through lothr.
This post was edited on 1/22/12 at 2:09 pm
Posted by Fearthehat0307
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Posted on 1/22/12 at 2:00 pm to




Posted by St Augustine
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Posted on 1/22/12 at 2:08 pm to
turtles in time for the win
Posted by heatom2
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Posted on 1/22/12 at 2:08 pm to
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the acting is better


I think a lot of the acting in Star Wars was cheesy, and I grew up loving Star Wars.


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and I still don't get the hate for Return of the Jedi


Me either.
Posted by LSUtigersarefun
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Posted on 1/22/12 at 2:12 pm to
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Posted by tigerinstaugustine turtles in time for the win

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Posted by BayouBengal504
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Posted on 1/22/12 at 2:14 pm to
i dont consider back to the future a trilogy because the third one should have been aborted
Posted by Fletch F Fletch
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Posted on 1/22/12 at 2:24 pm to
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because BayouBengal504 should have been aborted


FIFY
Posted by Tactical1
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Posted on 1/22/12 at 2:28 pm to
Back to the Future is better than all of those.
Posted by Starchild
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Posted on 1/22/12 at 2:34 pm to
I refuse to acknowledge that there was a third TMNT movie...it was that bad
Posted by BilJ
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Posted on 1/22/12 at 2:36 pm to
Turtles 3 sucked hard
Posted by Fearthehat0307
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Posted on 1/22/12 at 2:40 pm to
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I refuse to acknowledge that there was a third TMNT movie...it was that bad
i remember watching it in the theaters at the dollar cinema in lafayette
This post was edited on 1/22/12 at 2:41 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 1/22/12 at 6:23 pm to
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While LOTR was shot and directed well, there just wasn't enough source material to make 3 3-hour movies about people walking interesting throughout.


I heavily, heavily disagree. The films are much better in the Extended Editions. I don't think the theatrical versions were long enough to contain all of Tolkein's magnificent world (especially Return of the King).

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Unless you find gay sexual tension exciting.


Oh haha. Haven't heard that one before.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 1/22/12 at 6:29 pm to
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All right, look, there's only one "Return," okay, and it ain't "of the King," it's "of the Jedi."



Jedi has a ton of filler, Ewoks, and the worst and dumbest battle ever. Return of the King has a battle with a giant spider, giant trolls and dragons, and absolutely no filler. It's pretty indisputable that Return of the King is a better film than Return of the Jedi. You can make a case with the original Star Wars and Empire being better than Fellowship and Towers (and I would agree that Empire is better than Towers), but when you get the final chapter of each trilogy going head to head on which one had a better story, better character resolution, and more heart, its completely indisputably Return of the King. Both are wonderful trilogies, but Lord of the Rings is clearly superior. It was the unadaptable film.... and Peter Jackson did it almost flawlessly. Its a higher achievement than Star Wars, and I fricking love Star Wars.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 1/22/12 at 6:36 pm to
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The third movie was the worst, imo. The long trek up the mountain with the two little guys falling over each other trying to create sentiment, and then the long winded goodbye scene at the end. But, I guessed they owed the fans a "bow"/ "goodbye" after one has invested 9 hours of watching three movies of people walking to a fricking volcano.



The thing people don't realize is that..... hate to refute my original point, but the Lord of the Rings isn't really a trilogy; its a single film split up into three parts. The fact of the matter is after Frodo destroys the Ring, the film continues for 30 more minutes. Yeah thats 1/7 of the Return of the King, longer than most films need for the ending, but if you look at the complete trilogy as a whole that is 1/18 of the film, which is more than justified for any film. The ending needed to be that long since it really was a single film. And people who say the ending is too long have very clearly never read the book, due to the fact that the aftermath of Frodo destroying the Ring takes roughly half of Return of the King's length and a 1/6 of the novels.
Posted by TigerBait1127
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Posted on 1/22/12 at 6:38 pm to
I'm about to watch lotr for the first time.

You have any book recommendations
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 1/22/12 at 6:54 pm to
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You can't think of a single flaw in the LOTR movies? Is that a serious statement? LOTR is a solid trilogy but the epic masterpiece aura it has evolved into is a bit much IMO.



Name a flaw. I can't think of one that I can't instantly refute.

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The story is better


Not really.

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the acting is better,


Not only no, but frick no. Seriously this one isn't even close. I can't name one spectacular performance in Star Wars. I love Harrison Ford as much as the next guy (he's my man crush, like Archer has on Burt Reynolds), but he didn't do an Oscar worthy performance, nevertheless Mark Hamill or Carrie Fisher. I'll give Alec Guiness as having a great performance, but I'd say Ian McKellan put of the better performance as the mentor figure. Out of all the actors in Lord of the Rings, I'd say Sean Astin, Ian McKellan, Sean Bean, Billy Boyd, Bernard Hill, and especially Andy Serkis did a much better acting job than anyone in the original Star Wars trilogy. We can have an argument on other aspects of the film, but you are dead fricking wrong on which one had better acting.

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the characters are better


Not really. I love Star Wars, and it does have some great characters, but Lord of the Rings juggled much more of them around fairly perfectly. I'd say that Han, Leia, Obi Wan, Vader, Palpatine, Yoda, and C3PO were good characters, which is just fine if you have that many characters for a trilogy. Luke however was a pretty bland protagonist, but this isn't necessarily a bad thing since I think the intention was for us to relate to Luke, and this is not the case with many of the other great characters in the series. Lord of the Rings though, aside from maybe Legolas who is just there to be a badass and of course Sauron, pretty much all the characters are really strong. This one is a little more disputable, but I feel that since Lord of the Rings did it with more characters, it deserves the prize.

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and I still don't get the hate for Return of the Jedi. I thought it was an awesome ending, flame away.


I can explain in detail if you wish. Like the fact that Lucas didn't kill of Han solely due to the fact that he thought that it would negatively affect merchandising, and then Han does nothing for the rest of the film. This point makes it indisputable that King is a better film than Jedi since Lucas let the merchandising affect his story decisions.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 1/22/12 at 6:55 pm to
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I refuse to acknowledge that there was a third TMNT movie...it was that bad



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