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File this in everyone knows this but me. RE: Led Zeppelin's Rain Song and George Harrison.

Posted on 7/13/22 at 8:46 am
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 7/13/22 at 8:46 am
I just discovered this and I've been a Led Zeppelin fan my entire life:

quote:

...The Beatles’, but their seismic impact on music no doubt left its mark on the blues rockers in other ways. However, in the case of one of their most celebrated songs the sway of the quiet Beatle was rather more direct.

“The problem with you guys is you never do ballads,” Harrison once told John ‘Bonzo’ Bonham. This conversation filtered through to Jimmy Page, who regaled the tale to biographer Brad Tolinski. “I’ll give him a ballad,” Page vowed and set about crafting one of the most epic I’ll-show-you’s in music.

“I wrote ‘Rain Song’, which appears on Houses of the Holy,” Page continued, “In fact, you’ll notice I even quote ‘Something’ in the song’s first two chords.” This nod to Harrison was less of a homage and more of a friendly sarcastic jibe as Page also penned the song under the working title of ‘Slush’.


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What I find interesting about Led Zeppelin writing a ballad is that Jimmy Page still had to use power cords in the song that is supposed to be a ballad giving the song that heavy anticipatory feeling that most Led Zeppelin songs are known for. The song is good poetry too. It's an allegory where Page uses the seasons to represent a new relationship that starts with eros and grows to agape. Oh, and as usual John Paul Jones does a masterful job on the synth providing so much depth to the song.
This post was edited on 7/13/22 at 8:48 am
Posted by Dire Wolf
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Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 7/13/22 at 8:54 am to
quote:

“I wrote ‘Rain Song’, which appears on Houses of the Holy,” Page continued, “In fact, you’ll notice I even quote ‘Something’ in the song’s first two chords.” This nod to Harrison was less of a homage and more of a friendly sarcastic jibe as Page also penned the song under the working title of ‘Slush’.



damn, thanks for posting. Never noticed that and i love both those songs. I can instantly hear what he is talking about, that is actually really cool

Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138559 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 8:55 am to
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It's an allegory where Page uses the seasons to represent a new relationship that starts with eros and grows to agape
Posted by UnluckyTiger
Member since Sep 2003
42481 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 8:56 am to
Very cool, never knew this. The Rain Song is my favorite Led Zeppelin song followed by Ten Years Gone.
Posted by Tony The Tiger
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Sep 2003
2739 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 8:58 am to


And the nod to "Something" is crazy.. of course never heard that in the song until just now. Sad that we don't have brilliant songwriters and music makers like this today.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140359 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 9:01 am to
Let me help you out.

Eros:

quote:

Eros is a concept in ancient Greek philosophy referring to sensual or passionate love, from which the term erotic is derived


Analogous to spring in the song. Eros is new love feeling.



Agape (pronounced "a-gah-pay"):

quote:

deep and profound sacrificial love that transcends and persists regardless of circumstance


Analogous to winter in the song.
Posted by White Bear
Deer-Thirty
Member since Jul 2014
17447 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 9:03 am to
K THX
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138559 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 9:11 am to
quote:

Let me help you out.

Eros:

quote:
Eros is a concept in ancient Greek philosophy referring to sensual or passionate love, from which the term erotic is derived


Analogous to spring in the song. Eros is new love feeling.



Agape (pronounced "a-gah-pay"):

quote:
deep and profound sacrificial love that transcends and persists regardless of circumstance


Analogous to winter in the song.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 9:15 am to
The peak of that song is so impressive

quote:

I've felt the coldness of my winter
I never thought it would ever go
I cursed the gloom that set upon us, upon us, upon us
Posted by HeadSlash
TEAM LIVE BADASS - St. GEORGE
Member since Aug 2006
55496 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 9:17 am to
Led zeppelin sucks

Sonic anyone?
Posted by kook
Berrytown
Member since Sep 2013
2099 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 9:19 am to
quote:

Agape (pronounced "a-gah-pay"): quote: deep and profound sacrificial love that transcends and persists regardless of circumstance



means something totally different on Pron Hub, Baw
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
83918 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 9:21 am to
Song is boring
Posted by UKWildcats
Lexington, KY
Member since Mar 2015
19408 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 9:22 am to
I will fricking cut you first. Then enjoy my tots and slush

Rain Song seems more like an epic than a ballad to get technical. Either way Houses of the Holy is my favorite Zep album. No Quarter seems like an underrated song if Zep even has one.
This post was edited on 7/13/22 at 9:23 am
Posted by Tomatocantender
Boot
Member since Jun 2021
5590 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 9:43 am to
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What I find interesting about Led Zeppelin writing a ballad is that Jimmy Page still had to use power cords in the song that is supposed to be a ballad giving the song that heavy anticipatory feeling that most Led Zeppelin songs are known for. The song is good poetry too. It's an allegory where Page uses the seasons to represent a new relationship that starts with eros and grows to agape. Oh, and as usual John Paul Jones does a masterful job on the synth providing so much depth to the song.


Do you like Phil Collins? I've been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, Duke. Before that, I really didn't understand any of their work. Too artsy, too intellectual. It was on Duke where, uh, Phil Collins' presence became more apparent. I think Invisible Touch was the group's undisputed masterpiece. It's an epic meditation on intangibility. At the same time, it deepens and enriches the meaning of the preceding three albums. Christy, take off your robe. Listen to the brilliant ensemble playing of Banks, Collins and Rutherford. You can practically hear every nuance of every instrument. Sabrina, remove your dress. In terms of lyrical craftsmanship, the sheer songwriting, this album hits a new peak of professionalism. Sabrina, why don't you, uh, dance a little. Take the lyrics to Land of Confusion. In this song, Phil Collins addresses the problems of abusive political authority. In Too Deep is the most moving pop song of the 1980s, about monogamy and commitment. The song is extremely uplifting. Their lyrics are as positive and affirmative as, uh, anything I've heard in rock. Christy, get down on your knees so Sabrina can see your a-hole. Phil Collins' solo career seems to be more commercial and therefore more satisfying, in a narrower way. Especially songs like In the Air Tonight and, uh, Against All Odds. Sabrina, don't just stare at it, eat it. But I also think Phil Collins works best within the confines of the group, than as a solo artist, and I stress the word artist. This is Sussudio, a great, great song, a personal favorite.
Posted by Zoso
Bay Saint Louis
Member since Nov 2021
557 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 9:49 am to
Hammer of the Gods
Posted by Aspercel
Member since Jan 2009
117415 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 9:50 am to
Thanks for posting! I did not know any of this. Rain Song is my favorite and George was my favorite Beatle.
Posted by UnluckyTiger
Member since Sep 2003
42481 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 9:51 am to
Zoso at the Varsity. If you drink enough you can pretend you’re at a real Led Zeppelin concert. At least that’s what I told myself in college. They do an excellent job for a cover band. Would recommend them to anyone.
This post was edited on 7/13/22 at 9:53 am
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
83918 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 9:53 am to
quote:

Sabrina, don't just stare at it, eat it.


Love this quote.

quote:

This is Sussudio, a great, great song, a personal favorite.

Hate that song.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140359 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 9:55 am to
quote:

Do you like Phil Collins?


Yes. I'm familiar with Phil Collins, Genesis and all the Genesis members but I have not deeply listened to them like I have Led Zeppelin, Rush, Beatles or Pink Floyd. But it's a good suggestion and I'll dive deeper into Genesis. I like their music.
Posted by Figgy
CenCal
Member since May 2020
10079 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 9:57 am to
quote:

Christy, take off your robe.

quote:

Christy, get down on your knees so Sabrina can see your a-hole.

quote:

Sabrina, don't just stare at it, eat it.


I don’t remember these lyrics.
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