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re: Aaron Nelson Appreciation Thread
Posted on 3/22/23 at 5:35 pm to 3PieceSpicy
Posted on 3/22/23 at 5:35 pm to 3PieceSpicy
The problem is that Nelson has taken an over cautious approach with EVERY SINGLE INJURY. Zion's meniscus surgery: he missed a month longer than the normal protocol for a meniscectomy then he was put on the asinine bursts that have no medical basis, this caused a division between the best player and organization that almost was unfixable; this year: 4 months for a hamstring. Yes, hamstrings can be tough to heal but our best player still had a setback in his rehab, under the control of Nelson, that is lasting as long as the initial injury.
The problem is not exclusive to Zion. BI has missed more time than expected for every single injury he has had as a Pel. He is also notoriously not ready to compete at his normal level when he returns. Jose is now done for the year for an injury that Anthony Freaking Davis returned from quicker. It may be that he is overcautious, but the whole point of the job is to have players healthy. He has failed at that objective at every turn.
The problem is not exclusive to Zion. BI has missed more time than expected for every single injury he has had as a Pel. He is also notoriously not ready to compete at his normal level when he returns. Jose is now done for the year for an injury that Anthony Freaking Davis returned from quicker. It may be that he is overcautious, but the whole point of the job is to have players healthy. He has failed at that objective at every turn.
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Posted on 3/22/23 at 5:44 pm to ThePistol
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The problem is that Nelson has taken an over cautious approach with EVERY SINGLE INJURY. Zion's meniscus surgery: he missed a month longer than the normal protocol for a meniscectomy then he was put on the asinine bursts that have no medical basis, this caused a division between the best player and organization that almost was unfixable; this year: 4 months for a hamstring. Yes, hamstrings can be tough to heal but our best player still had a setback in his rehab, under the control of Nelson, that is lasting as long as the initial injury. The problem is not exclusive to Zion. BI has missed more time than expected for every single injury he has had as a Pel. He is also notoriously not ready to compete at his normal level when he returns. Jose is now done for the year for an injury that Anthony Freaking Davis returned from quicker. It may be that he is overcautious, but the whole point of the job is to have players healthy. He has failed at that objective at every turn
Amen. Why be so cautious when you can’t even keep the players healthy when you’re holding them out to be cautious. Grow some fricking nuts and play the players. Who cares if zion get injured because we brought him back a little early? He still gets injured even if we hold him out for months at a time and treat him like a baby
Posted on 3/22/23 at 5:47 pm to Balsamic_duck
I wonder if the news around other players like Murray, Kawhi, etc who have dealt with injuries & disagree with the team doctors scared them into becoming overly cautious.
Which is funny because it feels like we swung the pendulum too far.
Which is funny because it feels like we swung the pendulum too far.
Posted on 3/22/23 at 5:59 pm to htran90
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I wonder if the news around other players like Murray, Kawhi, etc who have dealt with injuries & disagree with the team doctors scared them into becoming overly cautious. Which is funny because it feels like we swung the pendulum too far
I think Nelson is just a pussy. Players can’t get injured if you don’t play them.
Posted on 3/22/23 at 6:14 pm to Mad Scientist26
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I don’t think anyone can make Zion play a full season.
20-21 season would like to have a word with you. He played every single game minus one for a false positive covid test before the team shut him down with 5-6 games left to go because they were out of the playoffs and he had been playing through a broken finger
Posted on 3/22/23 at 6:22 pm to Soggymoss
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20-21 season would like to have a word with you. He played every single game minus one for a false positive covid test before the team shut him down with 5-6 games left to go because they were out of the playoffs and he had been playing through a broken finger
At this point that’s an outlier season. Greg oden also played 61 games his 2nd year. There’s 2 paths Zion’s career can go down, Oden or Embiid. Considering zion doesn’t have an outside game that can take some wear off his body like Embiid, I’ll put my money on him having a career like oden
Posted on 3/22/23 at 6:27 pm to 3PieceSpicy
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His 2nd year was a thumb, but I still don’t think people realize how close we were to the playoffs that year. That injury did ultimately cost us a play in spot at the very least.
He was playing through the injury until the team decided to shut him down. Griff even had a whole PC on it blaming officials
Posted on 3/22/23 at 6:35 pm to Balsamic_duck
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What happens if we brought zion back 15 games ago and he tore his hamstring? he would miss the rest of the season just like he already is by being cautious.
You do understand a strain hamstring is not something you can play through, you can barely walk correctly. We tried to ramp Zion up before the All star break but he pulled the hamstring again and from reports even worse. This has nothing to do with being cautious remember how Zion hurt himself in the first place playing in 3 games in 4 nights playing heavy minutes with high usage. That's not babying Zion that's Zion body not being able to handle the workload.
Posted on 3/22/23 at 6:56 pm to Jar_Jar_80
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You do understand a strain hamstring is not something you can play through, you can barely walk correctly. We tried to ramp Zion up before the All star break but he pulled the hamstring again and from reports even worse. This has nothing to do with being cautious remember how Zion hurt himself in the first place playing in 3 games in 4 nights playing heavy minutes with high usage. That's not babying Zion that's Zion body not being able to handle the workload
If a 22 year old’s body can’t handle the workload then we need to cut bait. It’s not going to get better as he gets older
Posted on 3/22/23 at 10:33 pm to Soggymoss
If you really look back on that 20-21 season. He and Ingram were both shut down and we were not even close to even being eliminated from the playoffs. I think we were either officially eliminated with 2 or 3 games left. Zion sat at least 8-10 games down the stretch. Ingram sat some as well. And we lost some mind numbingly crazy games in that last 10-12 games. And every other team around us in the standings was losing like crazy. If Zion or Ingram was playing, we waltz into the play ins at a minimum.
But we gave up for whatever reason.
Not debating Zion’s severity of thumb injury or anything like that. But if he played those last 10 games or so. The entire back end of that season is different. SVG might not have even been fired.
But we gave up for whatever reason.
Not debating Zion’s severity of thumb injury or anything like that. But if he played those last 10 games or so. The entire back end of that season is different. SVG might not have even been fired.
This post was edited on 3/22/23 at 10:36 pm
Posted on 3/22/23 at 11:20 pm to 3PieceSpicy
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I think you are giving Zion way too much credit here.
You think Zion doesn’t stretch before games?
Posted on 3/22/23 at 11:38 pm to SammyTiger
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You think Zion doesn’t stretch before games?
I don’t think zion does a lot of things necessary to keep his body in top shape. Lebron is almost 40 and gets injured less than him because he spends millions on his body
Posted on 3/23/23 at 10:28 am to Balsamic_duck
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I don’t think zion does a lot of things necessary to keep his body in top shape.
You think he doesn’t stretch before games.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 10:37 am to SammyTiger
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You think he doesn’t stretch before games.
I mean he was in an interview making fun of CJ for his stretching routine so Im gonna go with no
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