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Are you okay with Zion being overweight and missing games?

Posted on 3/31/23 at 3:31 pm
Posted by Thundercles
Mars
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 3/31/23 at 3:31 pm
Since my last thread was perceived as a troll thread and deleted, I'll rephrase. It is evident that he can not sustainably play at his size, yet has refused to lose any weight long term. When it's pointed out that he's fat and lazy, people pile on with verbal attacks and downvotes.

So the question I'd like the answer to is are you okay with hitching this franchise's fortunes to a player that is gobbling up money and refusing to do the bare minimum to contribute in any meaningful way? If not, why so angry about him being called fat?
Posted by Tshiz
Idaho
Member since Jul 2013
7974 posts
Posted on 3/31/23 at 3:32 pm to
Sure. I hate the nba
Posted by Sauce Castieaux
Asheville, NC.
Member since Nov 2015
5746 posts
Posted on 3/31/23 at 3:36 pm to
My expectations with him are getting so low that i just want a solid 55 games a year or so.

Other people like AD get crushed for missing games and rightfully so...at some point this shite has to matter.

I just dont know if its a zion issue or Pels issue. Because it seems like most of our guys miss significant time at some point.

Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112708 posts
Posted on 3/31/23 at 3:36 pm to
I'm not ok with Zion having a hamstring injury and then reinjuring that hamstring...not ok with that.

Now what?
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So the question I'd like the answer to is are you okay with hitching this franchise's fortunes to a player that is gobbling up money and refusing to do the bare minimum to contribute in any meaningful way?
Yes
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If not, why so angry about him being called fat?
Because it's a nonsensical rant, but you already know that.

He wasn't fat when he got hurt, so you're just saying a bunch of words that make you look foolish right now, but more power to you.
Posted by Thundercles
Mars
Member since Sep 2010
6135 posts
Posted on 3/31/23 at 3:38 pm to
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He wasn't fat when he got hurt


He's never not been fat. He's been slightly less fat, but even if he down to 265 at his best that's still too heavy for his frame.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112708 posts
Posted on 3/31/23 at 3:40 pm to
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He's never not been fat. He's been slightly less fat, but even if he down to 265 at his best that's still too heavy for his frame.

ok
Posted by LouisianaJoseph
Denver
Member since Apr 2018
1431 posts
Posted on 3/31/23 at 3:46 pm to
Your posts are shite.
This post was edited on 3/31/23 at 3:47 pm
Posted by Thundercles
Mars
Member since Sep 2010
6135 posts
Posted on 3/31/23 at 3:46 pm to
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I just dont know if its a zion issue or Pels issue


I think it's a little bit of both. Zion doesn't have the motivation himself, so in theory the organization should step in with a firmer hand.

I think the Pelicans are concerned with keeping him happy and around that they are being far too lenient on this piece which is sinking everyone involved.
Posted by CP3forMVP
Member since Nov 2010
15843 posts
Posted on 3/31/23 at 4:23 pm to
“Fat”



It’s an idiotic argument in my opinion. He was in great shape when he got hurt.
Posted by jevins_slickin
Member since Nov 2018
1324 posts
Posted on 3/31/23 at 4:29 pm to
Only thing that matters is he is not in shape now after we all thought he took a turn for the better.

Idc if he was hurt, these are professionals and he shouldnt balloon while out a couple months in season. I dont recall seeing any other nba player have that same issue after sustaining an injury.
This post was edited on 3/31/23 at 4:30 pm
Posted by ThePistol
Lafayette, LA
Member since Mar 2007
1809 posts
Posted on 3/31/23 at 4:36 pm to
No one knows if he is in shape or not. His body size played no part in the injury or re-injury. If he comes back and is 80% of what he was for the first 30 games we have a good chance to win a series. If he isn't at least 80% as good then we need to have a long discussion about Aaron Nelson and staff. It took BI at least 15 games to look like himself after returning. Zion not being ready to hit the ground running would be more the rule with the Pelicans and not the exception. That is why these threads are so stupid.
Posted by mhasen1
Texas
Member since Feb 2008
1864 posts
Posted on 3/31/23 at 4:40 pm to
If he plays like he did in November and December, I'm OK with him mainlining crisco.
Posted by lsuson
Metairie
Member since Oct 2013
15153 posts
Posted on 3/31/23 at 4:53 pm to
Nope. I gave up on them when BI was cleared and he still said out another month. Absolute joke.
Posted by Thundercles
Mars
Member since Sep 2010
6135 posts
Posted on 3/31/23 at 4:54 pm to
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That is why these threads are so stupid.


It's not stupid because his size is the direct reason he is hurt so often. The body can't take the kind of burst and impact the NBA requires over and over and over at his weight. Thats why no one other than Barkley has done it, and even Barkley had to get to 250 to have a career.

It's not like every time he gets on a court at 260+ he's going to get hurt, but with as physical as he plays and all the contact and all the landings, it's only a short matter of time every single time as evidenced by him always being hurt.

Even Ben Wallace, who was one of the most jacked players in the league, played at about 6'7"-6'9" (taller than Zion) and 240-250 (significantly less than Zion at his smallest). Dwight Howard, who is a massive man at 6'10 or 6'11" played at 265 and solid muscle, and he even has had to slim down over the years.

If Zion stays anywhere close to his current size he will never be effective, and him missing 2/3 of his NBA career so far is proof of that.
Posted by jevins_slickin
Member since Nov 2018
1324 posts
Posted on 3/31/23 at 5:00 pm to
I understand no one can hit the ground running coming off an injury cardiovascular wise.

However, playing at an unhealthy weight makes him more prone to injury and it’s obvious he’s gained some weight.

Seems like the same song and dance as last year by dangling the carrot. I used to trust the training staff, but it’s evident something has to change.

Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
24650 posts
Posted on 3/31/23 at 5:12 pm to
There are people here that said he did everything he needed in the off-season to get in shape and ready to play lol
Posted by jmcwhrter
Member since Nov 2012
7848 posts
Posted on 3/31/23 at 5:31 pm to
This entire thread feels like 7 different Crewz alters arguing with each other

Zion gains weight if he's inactive

He does the opposite if he's playing
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112708 posts
Posted on 3/31/23 at 5:55 pm to
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Only thing that matters is he is not in shape now
He's not?

Again, this is said literally every time he's about to return from injury then he returns, is magically not looking fat and dominates the NBA.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112708 posts
Posted on 3/31/23 at 5:56 pm to
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It's not stupid
It's stupid because you ignored that Pic right above because you know darn well he's not fat in that pic

So instead of seeing something that clearly shows you're wrong and conceding, you want to ignore it and keep making your argument.
Posted by kpop1
Member since Jan 2018
1673 posts
Posted on 3/31/23 at 6:56 pm to
'Nuf said.
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