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re: Bill Reiter (CBS SR) says Silver should intervene if Kawhi signs with LAL
Posted on 7/5/19 at 8:59 am to Philippines4LSU
Posted on 7/5/19 at 8:59 am to Philippines4LSU
Between the tampering and circumventing the cap with Space Jam, Silver should step in. Stern wouldn’t stand for it. He actually had balls. Silver is a huge vagina even though he looks like an actual penis.
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Posted on 7/5/19 at 9:08 am to teke184
quote:No, best best solution is they make AD sign the extension, make the Lakers add it to their salary cap but Ban AD for the next 5 seasons.
Best solution at this point? Trade goes through but the league voids AD’s contract and strips his Bird rights.
That fricks them long term because it means the Clips and Knicks are able to offer AD a better deal
Since we're making crazy hypotheticals, let's get wayyyyy out there.
Posted on 7/5/19 at 9:09 am to Soggymoss
quote:With the MLE and other exceptions and older guys lining up to ring chase, by year 2 or 3 they would have a solid rotation around their Big 3.
Their cap would be screwed for years.. It wouldnt be a Golden State scenario where they already had everyone on cheap deals and was able to drop KD in
It would be a case of you have a big 3, then a bunch of scrubs, every single year
Posted on 7/5/19 at 10:27 am to shel311
Who, right now, that's willing to take a minimum deal, will take a minimum next year, will be of any effect for them?
All those guys are washed up
They will have a big 3 with the team filled in with a bunch of JR Smith and Carmelo Anthony level players
That's not a championship team
All those guys are washed up
They will have a big 3 with the team filled in with a bunch of JR Smith and Carmelo Anthony level players
That's not a championship team
Posted on 7/5/19 at 10:36 am to Soggymoss
Space jam is going to be a huge flop. Who wants to watch that garbage?
As if the first one wasn’t stupid enough
As if the first one wasn’t stupid enough
Posted on 7/5/19 at 10:38 am to shel311
The hypothetical I laid out has precedent.
The league retroactively voided three contracts for Joe Smith, terminated his Bird rights, and heavily punished the Timberwolves in cash, picks, and suspensions to the owner and GM for circumventing the cap.
The league retroactively voided three contracts for Joe Smith, terminated his Bird rights, and heavily punished the Timberwolves in cash, picks, and suspensions to the owner and GM for circumventing the cap.
Posted on 7/5/19 at 10:52 am to Soggymoss
quote:
Who, right now, that's willing to take a minimum deal, will take a minimum next year, will be of any effect for them?
All those guys are washed up
They will have a big 3 with the team filled in with a bunch of JR Smith and Carmelo Anthony level players
That's not a championship team
I think we are all deluding ourselves here a bit.
There is a reason everyone that is not a Lakers fan doesn't want Kawhi to go that direction, we know deep down what it means. A broken league.
In a league where ultimately you will only be playing 6-7 people come the playoffs, having 3 top 5ish players and guys like Quinn Cook, Danny Green, and some ring chasing vets is enough to get you over the finish line. Especially because with 3 superstars, role players can punch above their weight class because of all the attention those three get. It has always been a classic way great teams drive up the price of their role players.
The first year, like with Miami, there is probably a window for another team to knock them out, but when they get the full MLE for next season and going forward, they are going to be able to add one or two solid vets chasing rings and that is going to make them almost impossible to overcome. And it sucks, and it is why the league needs serious reform...Or at least for Silver to have some balls and play hardball against the frickery.
This post was edited on 7/5/19 at 10:54 am
Posted on 7/5/19 at 11:00 am to BigPerm30
Tampering is happening whether we like it or not. I think a good balance is incorporating a "legal tampering period" between the end of the NBA Finals and July 1
LeBron really does have way too much power in the league through Klutch and having the connections in LA. I have no problem with player empowerment and what LeBron wants to do after his NBA career, but what he's doing is a major conflict of interest
LeBron really does have way too much power in the league through Klutch and having the connections in LA. I have no problem with player empowerment and what LeBron wants to do after his NBA career, but what he's doing is a major conflict of interest
Posted on 7/5/19 at 11:11 am to teke184
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The hypothetical I laid out has precedent.
The league retroactively voided three contracts for Joe Smith, terminated his Bird rights, and heavily punished the Timberwolves in cash, picks, and suspensions to the owner and GM for circumventing the cap.
quote:
Smith had a promising first three seasons as a pro with the Golden State Warriors, but his production took a hit when he was traded to the Philadelphia 76ers in 1998. After the 1999 NBA lockout, he became a free agent, and was highly sought after. He signed a one-year, $1.75 million deal in Minnesota, well below market value, to allow the team to make other moves that offseason. It was a curious decision to say the least, especially considering he had turned down an $80 million extension with the Warriors prior to being traded, only to find that free agency wasn’t as friendly as he had hoped. As it turns out, Smith and the Timberwolves had an under-the-table agreement in place, where Smith would sign three one-year deals for very little money, allowing the Timberwolves to acquire his Bird rights, which would allow them to go over the salary cap to re-sign him. He would have then been rewarded with a lucrative contract that would have paid him up to $86 million. This arrangement, of course, was highly illegal, and sanctions came down hard on the Timberwolves when the league found out.
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The Timberwolves were fined $3.5 million, and forfeited their first-round draft picks for the next five years (the team’s 2003 pick was eventually restored). Not only was Smith’s newly-signed contract voided, his previous two were as well, meaning he would no longer retain his Bird rights with the Timberwolves. Additionally, Timberwolves owner Glen Taylor was suspended through August 31, 2001, and VP of basketball operations Kevin McHale took a leave of absence through July 31.
LINK
Your move Mr. Silver. Do you have the balls, or are you chicken?
Buck buck buck buck...
WWDSD (what would David Stern do?)
Posted on 7/5/19 at 11:14 am to Philippines4LSU
This is ridiculous. No one is forcing KL to the Lakers. And no one forced the Pelicans to trade AD to the Lakers. They traded him there because the Lakers made the best offer...about as good an offer as there has ever been for a player who wanted to be traded and who had 1 year left on his contract.
the "problem", such as it is, is inherent: with only 5 players on a court, assembling a great 3 is doable.
They're no cinch anyway: they aren't as good as prime Warriors, who by the way benefited from probably the best player in the NBA signing with an already great team.
the "problem", such as it is, is inherent: with only 5 players on a court, assembling a great 3 is doable.
They're no cinch anyway: they aren't as good as prime Warriors, who by the way benefited from probably the best player in the NBA signing with an already great team.
This post was edited on 7/5/19 at 11:16 am
Posted on 7/5/19 at 11:49 am to Soggymoss
quote:Right now is irrelevant. They'll be able to make additions next offseason and each subsequent offseason.
Who, right now, that's willing to take a minimum deal, will take a minimum next year, will be of any effect for them?
quote:all the free agents over the next 2 offseasons are washed up?
All those guys are washed up
quote:In year 1. Going forward, they will have opportunities to improve the roster.
They will have a big 3 with the team filled in with a bunch of JR Smith and Carmelo Anthony level players
That's not a championship team
This post was edited on 7/5/19 at 11:50 am
Posted on 7/5/19 at 11:52 am to teke184
quote:The actual contract Joe Smith signed was illegal.
The hypothetical I laid out has precedent.
The league retroactively voided three contracts for Joe Smith, terminated his Bird rights, and heavily punished the Timberwolves in cash, picks, and suspensions to the owner and GM for circumventing the cap.
AD's contract is not illegal, so they're going to void his legal contract?
Posted on 7/5/19 at 11:59 am to shel311
What's going to be the fallout of this IMO is that in the next CBA negotiations the league is going to want to have some control over agents. Currently it's the Players Union that certifies and regulates agents. I'm not sure what the league would do differently, fine or decertify Rich Paul maybe, but this looks like a threat to their power and I don't think they'll let this threat fester and grow.
This post was edited on 7/5/19 at 12:00 pm
Posted on 7/5/19 at 11:59 am to shel311
If we're in hypotheticals...
Should the NBA revoke recognition of Rich Paul specifically and Klutch as an agency due to their ties to LeBron, their signature on the contract next to AD's could invalidate it.
There are people who know far more than me who could find a legal loophole to either invalidate AD's contract or heavily punish AD, LeBron, the Lakers, Klutch, or other entities.
For instance, if AD's paycheck for Space Jam 2 should just "happen" to be $4m higher than the other players involved, it could be considered a salary cap evasion by LeBron (executive producer of the movie) paying him outside basketball to waive his trade kicker.
Should the NBA revoke recognition of Rich Paul specifically and Klutch as an agency due to their ties to LeBron, their signature on the contract next to AD's could invalidate it.
There are people who know far more than me who could find a legal loophole to either invalidate AD's contract or heavily punish AD, LeBron, the Lakers, Klutch, or other entities.
For instance, if AD's paycheck for Space Jam 2 should just "happen" to be $4m higher than the other players involved, it could be considered a salary cap evasion by LeBron (executive producer of the movie) paying him outside basketball to waive his trade kicker.
Posted on 7/5/19 at 12:00 pm to Philippines4LSU
Why are we just now talking about klutch and tampering? That shite was evident from the beginning
Posted on 7/5/19 at 12:01 pm to crazyLSUstudent
Because someone from CBS just got on a soapbox to decry it just as Kawhi is making a decision.
Everyone has known it was happening since at least February, but now people are motivated to address it.
Everyone has known it was happening since at least February, but now people are motivated to address it.
Posted on 7/5/19 at 12:02 pm to teke184
quote:
Should the NBA revoke recognition of Rich Paul specifically and Klutch as an agency due to their ties to LeBron
The NBA can't do that, the NBAPA can but why does the union care?
Posted on 7/5/19 at 12:05 pm to teke184
quote:What?
Should the NBA revoke recognition of Rich Paul specifically and Klutch as an agency due to their ties to LeBron
Posted on 7/5/19 at 12:06 pm to TigerinATL
quote:
The NBA can't do that, the NBAPA can but why does the union care?
If they were forward-thinking, they would be doing it to get ahead of the next CBA battle for 2023-2024.
LeBron and Klutch are getting away with this shite now but LeBron is likely retired by 2023-2024 and Klutch becomes diminished as a result. Maybe not out of business but not nearly as powerful if they get dropped by a lot of their top clients when LeBron leaves.
But the damage to the players would remain because you know that owners are going to be taking direct aim at agents / agencies and players under contract forcing their way out.
It won't happen, though, because the players can barely focus on what is in front of their faces, let alone 4 years in the future when many of them will be out of the league.
Posted on 7/5/19 at 12:07 pm to Bronc
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It would be much more helpful than ESPN and every other sports personality talking about how all the league really needs is for every good player to be in either New York or LA and downplaying the harm and corruptive ways it goes about happening.
Seems like %90 of the media wants Kawhi in LA. If you were to ask any one of them whether or not Toronto is a great basketball city, they would say yes. So they are completely good with Toronto, a great basketball city, not having any stars and not being competitive just so LA can have a 3rd star on the team. Pisses me off.
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