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re: Iggy back on the trade block?
Posted on 5/9/11 at 11:23 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 5/9/11 at 11:23 am to SlowFlowPro
Because firing the coach in back to back years is the surefire way to show CP3 we're serious about forging a contender...
Posted on 5/9/11 at 11:24 am to SlowFlowPro
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we can't keep letting our 1-sided players like ariza
He wasn't fricking the team in the playoffs. Ariza isn't a prob IMO.
Posted on 5/9/11 at 11:26 am to Eman5805
quote:They could hire Phil Jackson, re-sign Paul, trade Aaron Gray for Dwight Howard, and he'd complain about Monty's wardrobe
Because firing the coach in back to back years is the surefire way to show CP3 we're serious about forging a contender...
Posted on 5/9/11 at 11:30 am to SlowFlowPro
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i just want a guy who can take guys off the dribble and shoot. we have ariza to be big, athletic, and defensive
Thornton ain't Wade so I ain't going to put him on a pedestal like others here. I am sorry I hate the idea of having Thornton matchup with Kobe or Artest.
Posted on 5/9/11 at 11:31 am to Colonel Flagg
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Thornton ain't Wade so I ain't going to put him on a pedestal like others here.
i have no illusions about getting a guy like wade
we've needed a scorer at the 2 for years. we finally had one, then gave him away. it's frustrating
now, we need another scorer at the 2
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I am sorry I hate the idea of having Thornton matchup with Kobe or Artest.
artest sucks
i'd rather thornton guard artest than have kobe dominate belli
Posted on 5/9/11 at 11:32 am to Eman5805
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Because firing the coach in back to back years is the surefire way to show CP3 we're serious about forging a contender...
i know they're not going to fire monty
but we'll never be elite with monty unless we can overhaul the lineup and build it for the type of team he wants
Posted on 5/9/11 at 11:34 am to eyeran
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They could hire Phil Jackson, re-sign Paul, trade Aaron Gray for Dwight Howard, and he'd complain about Monty's wardrobe
not if we built a team that could contend for a title
the team has basically fricked that up
in 2008 i warned y'all that the team had a limited window to make a play. the hornets have fricked that up early and often since we ended our magical run in the 2008 playoffs
our ownership overextended itself on a piece of shite player like posey, which then led to the calculated sell off as shinn went cheap. this led to the inability to use our expiring contracts to improve the team, as we sold them off piece at a time to save money in the short term. then we did the same with chandler/okafor, fricking us for the long term.
don't try to call me out because i called this shite in 2008 and it's coming to fruition now
Posted on 5/9/11 at 11:35 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Giving them more than 1 season would be a start
but we'll never be elite with monty unless we can overhaul the lineup and build it for the type of team he wants
Posted on 5/9/11 at 11:37 am to eyeran
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Giving them more than 1 season would be a start
when we have a dominating post player on offense we'll be able to win with this style
short of that, we're fricked
and since character is such a big deal, we won't be able to gamble on a randolph-like player
so let me know when that guy is available for us
Posted on 5/9/11 at 11:41 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:All that shite's true. Nobody's arguing that. The franchise was being run like a freakin sno bowl stand. They were a joke. But thats old news.
not if we built a team that could contend for a title
the team has basically fricked that up
in 2008 i warned y'all that the team had a limited window to make a play. the hornets have fricked that up early and often since we ended our magical run in the 2008 playoffs
our ownership overextended itself on a piece of shite player like posey, which then led to the calculated sell off as shinn went cheap. this led to the inability to use our expiring contracts to improve the team, as we sold them off piece at a time to save money in the short term. then we did the same with chandler/okafor, fricking us for the long term.
don't try to call me out because i called this shite in 2008 and it's coming to fruition now
At least give Demps/Williams a shot to correct a decade of frickups before you're ready to can em.
All things considered, i thought they did a hell of job this year.
Posted on 5/9/11 at 11:44 am to SlowFlowPro
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but we'll never be elite with monty unless we can overhaul the lineup and build it for the type of team he wants
Being elite isn't a realistic goal. The plan should be Stockton/Malone. Those 2 were together for over 10 years before everything fell just right and they made 2 Finals. You build the best team you can and hope you get a healthy year with a good draw, kind of like what the Mavs are doing this season, benefiting from the Hornets setting up the Lakers for a fall in the first round and then getting lucky with the health and effectiveness of Chandler and Peja.
Posted on 5/9/11 at 11:44 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:...and he strikes again
short of that, we're fricked
Posted on 5/9/11 at 11:45 am to eyeran
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At least give Demps/Williams a shot to correct a decade of frickups before you're ready to can em.
monty's team requires a dominating post player on offense. this is the most rare position in basketball
if you're going to play grind it out 90s style ball, you need a post player who dominates offensively to run the offense through
Posted on 5/9/11 at 11:49 am to TigerinATL
quote:Certainly not after 1 season on the job.
Being elite isn't a realistic goal
Posted on 5/9/11 at 11:54 am to SlowFlowPro
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monty's team requires a dominating post player on offense. this is the most rare position in basketball
if you're going to play grind it out 90s style ball, you need a post player who dominates offensively to run the offense through
Like Dwight Howard, you mean.
Posted on 5/9/11 at 12:02 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i just want a guy who can take guys off the dribble and shoot. we have ariza to be big, athletic, and defensive
Nick Young ?
Posted on 5/9/11 at 12:03 pm to SlowFlowPro
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monty's team requires a dominating post player on offense. this is the most rare position in basketball
if you're going to play grind it out 90s style ball, you need a post player who dominates offensively to run the offense through
Give them more than 1 season Slow...
They won 46 games in the West in their first year.
Give them a healthy Paul for a season. An NBA caliber SG. West healthy. Not getting the worst possible matchup in the playoffs...
Posted on 5/9/11 at 12:04 pm to Eman5805
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Like Dwight Howard, you mean.
more like zach randolph or old duncan
and we ain't gettin howard
Posted on 5/9/11 at 12:04 pm to MrWiseGuy
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Nick Young ?
he fits for sure
Posted on 5/9/11 at 12:07 pm to Colonel Flagg
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He wasn't fricking the team in the playoffs. Ariza isn't a prob IMO.
Lol, I think everyone got so used to him being so bad on the offensive end of the floor during the regular season that his postseason play was sort of over blown.
He played really good D, no doubt. But, he still shot 41% from the floor and 33% from 3 versus the Lakers. I agree, you can live with THAT type of production if you have a guy that can score along side of him, I just hope Ariza doesn't fall back to shooting under 40% from the field and under 30% from 3 like he did for most of the season.
This post was edited on 5/9/11 at 12:09 pm
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