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Posted on 11/14/24 at 12:16 pm to
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
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Posted on 11/14/24 at 12:16 pm to
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Anfrenee Simons and Jaden Ivey are getting more foul calls on drives than 6'8" BI.


Think about this statement. Do you think NBA refs are purposely not calling fouls on BI?

Or is it more likely BI either isn’t getting fouled or still hasn’t found a way to adapt to the rules to draw more fouls?

But this whole refs aren’t calling stuff on BI- thats just an excuse. If Ivey and Simons are getting more calls it might be because they’re finding ways on how to draw free throw attempts than BI. Its not some “BI just doesn’t get calls”

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This wasn't a foul. As AD says "KCP hit him so hard he hurt himself" 20 minute mark


Absolutely was. Every star including BI has missed calls. But did BI attack KCP again to prove a point to the refs or did he let him off the hook with a jumper- where rarely fouls are called? Again you have to sometimes force the issue- that just isn’t who BI is.

You have a valid argument on the roster stuff but we’ll see if that changes anything.
This post was edited on 11/14/24 at 12:20 pm
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
30055 posts
Posted on 11/14/24 at 12:42 pm to
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Absolutely was. Every star including BI has missed calls. But did BI attack KCP again to prove a point to the refs or did he let him off the hook with a jumper- where rarely fouls are called? Again you have to sometimes force the issue- that just isn’t who BI is.




You make a good point and I agree.

He's been getting hacked at the last 3 years. Maybe if he had a coach who stood up for him, and Zion, we'd get more calls. Someone on the Pels staff shoudl be putting together tape after every game of the egregious no calls those two constantly get when going to the goal.
Both of them get charges called on them all the time, and it's never their man that takes the charge. They are facing a wall to get to the rim, and even when they get through the wall, they ahve to fight through fouls that aren't called to finish.
and trying to get to the rim going one on one from 35' out isn't an ideal way to get to the rim, and that's what we do constantly. That's on coaching and that's on execution of plays when they are called by the players. Lolly gagging through picks like we always do is why we get stuck with 8 seconds left on the shot clock and we still haven't done jack shite on offense.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 11/14/24 at 12:52 pm to
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He's been getting hacked at the last 3 years. Maybe if he had a coach who stood up for him, and Zion, we'd get more calls. Someone on the Pels staff shoudl be putting together tape after every game of the egregious no calls those two constantly get when going to the goal.


Completely agree! I could talk about this for hours. The coaching staff failure here is ridiculous. Instead we have random guys getting techs for other players but not our coach. Instead when Willie is asked about the refs- hes like “I don’t want to lose money.” This whole organization from top to bottom pisses me off. Including Griff- how do you allow Willie to say that and why not help him with fines if he gets techs. They don’t know how to groom stars- thats the bottom line honestly. SVG did and even Gentry did- Griff fired them.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112677 posts
Posted on 11/14/24 at 2:32 pm to
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Zion would have to take about 45 shots to hit 50 lmao. He doesn’t shoot 3s.
Nah, you're off on this

Zion is generally super efficient. The issue isn't efficiency. The issue is not he can only score one way at 1 spot on the court so he can't get enough shot attempts to consistently have 40 point games like the other elite scorers.

Giannis scored 59 last night going 1 for 2 from 3. He do so, in part, because he hit a ton of middies.
Posted by Baron
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 11/14/24 at 3:08 pm to
Dibs starting the game thread tomorrow
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
26723 posts
Posted on 11/14/24 at 3:09 pm to
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Baron


Save us meme boy
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
30055 posts
Posted on 11/14/24 at 3:44 pm to
quote:

Zion is generally super efficient. The issue isn't efficiency. The issue is not he can only score one way at 1 spot on the court so he can't get enough shot attempts to consistently have 40 point games like the other elite scorers.



The other issue is he's lazy and doens't play like Giannis.

Giannis took 8 shots last night in the first 6 seconds of the shot clock. Zion rarely even crosses half court in the first 6 seconds of the shot clock 8 times in a game.

Zion averaged 2.3 FGA per game last year in the first 6 seconds.
There's literally one NBA highlight of Zion going coast to coast in less than 4 seconds and scoring, and it wasn't off a rebound and he didn't dunk it.
There's a 12 minute highlight video full of Giannis going coast to coast and dunking.

Zion should be grabbing rebounds like Giannis does, and like Westbrook does, and Lebron does, and just bull charge down the court. But he literally never does that.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
26723 posts
Posted on 11/14/24 at 3:57 pm to
Where do you go to get your stats teddy?
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
30055 posts
Posted on 11/14/24 at 4:02 pm to
nba.com
They have tons of very specific stats available, and you can sort by specific dates, or last N games. Takes some getting used to though.
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