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Posted by eyeran
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Posted on 7/23/10 at 1:06 am to
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I just cant see players shying away because they didnt trade CP3 to a place he wanted to go. That just sounds silly all the way around
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Posted by NawlinsTiger9
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Posted on 7/23/10 at 1:07 am to
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ETA - If NY is offering Gallinari and Randolph in a deal for CP3 and Okafor, I'd be all over it.


Hell. Yes.

The way I see it, we almost have to trade Paul now.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 7/23/10 at 1:09 am to
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trading him to toronto or minnesota, places he almost assuredly does not want to go to, is what i'm talking about



if they trade him there(its unlikely anyway, lets face it) to get the best deal, then nothing can really be said. I doubt they would do it out of spite.


But lets face, if the Hornets are going to do this right, they are going to need to get a probable lottery pick(at least IMO) and not to many postseason caliber teams hold the keys to lottery picks at this point. and a team like NYK doesnt have picks to give. I dont know, maybe its just me. But high picks are going to be a necessity in a deal involving CP3
Posted by hsfolk
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 7/23/10 at 1:11 am to
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The way I see it, we almost have to trade Paul now.


We really don't have to trade him till next offseason at least. I would like it if Demps and Williams can convince him to stick around till at least halfway through next season and if by the time the trade deadline comes around the Hornets aren't contending then New Orleans will explore trade options
Posted by rollthatback
Member since Jun 2008
3074 posts
Posted on 7/23/10 at 3:44 am to
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No team that the player being traded doesn't want to go to is going to give up assets to bring in a guy who's only under contract for 2 years. Especially a place like Minnesota or Toronto where he'd obviously be miserable and sulk/throw a bitch fit like he is here. Secondly, the types of teams that would trade for a guy like Paul who is only under contract for two years are the teams that feel like they are legitimately one player away from being a contender. New York is the unique exception since they are marquee team in a marquee market that suck right now, but would easily lure free agents w/ Paul and Stoudamire.


Exactly

I don't understand why people in this thread are saying Paul has 0 leverage.
This post was edited on 7/23/10 at 3:45 am
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 7/23/10 at 6:56 am to
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I dont know, maybe its just me. But high picks are going to be a necessity in a deal involving CP3


That's because you're making the incorrect assumption that we have any pricing power here. This is a preemptive Sign and Trade meaning Paul gets to limit the potential buyers to playoff teams and the New York teams. There is a new "sources said" report out that Paul allegedly told Amare that he was going to force his way out. If this is all about creating a big 3 in New York, Paul may have enough pricing power to keep us stuck with Okafor too unless we get a 3rd team involved that might actually be interested in him like Toronto. If you're stuck with Okafor as part of the deal then it might be time to ask yourself if it's worth it or if you'd rather roll the dice on the new CBA and see if he's more interested in the Hornets if forming a big 3 isn't an option in 2 years and the Hornets have continued to improve.

But back to the lottery picks. Houston is probably the only team we can deal with that might be able to give you lottery picks. I also would think the Knicks 2013-14 picks have lottery potential since Amare and Paul both have their naysayers saying they'll need knee surgery in 2 years.
Posted by Jizzy08
Member since Aug 2008
12315 posts
Posted on 7/23/10 at 7:03 am to
Media really pushing this to get their big 3 started in New York.
Posted by eyeran
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2007
22204 posts
Posted on 7/23/10 at 9:13 am to
Apparently NYK is willing to trade anyone but Amare to get Paul, which is not surprising.

To me, a nice trade with Portland or the Knicks could really improve the Hornets. I trust Demps to make a solid move
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 7/23/10 at 9:19 am to
Geez HR still down. That server must be powered by a gerbil on a wheel.
Posted by VOR
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
68336 posts
Posted on 7/23/10 at 9:21 am to
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Geez HR still down. That server must be powered by a gerbil on a wheel.


I was joking earlier in this thread, but it's mighty strange that the crash coincides with the housecleaning in the front office. Just saying . . .
Posted by Shankopotomus
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Posted on 7/23/10 at 9:23 am to
agreed. the media is pushing this story way more than it probably deserves, there's obviously an agenda there. Not to mention it's the dog days of summer with barely a thing to talk about on sports radio all day long
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471567 posts
Posted on 7/23/10 at 9:24 am to
it seems to me that ESPN hasn't jumped on the cp3 trade rumors/talks as much as they could be
Posted by eyeran
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2007
22204 posts
Posted on 7/23/10 at 9:26 am to
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it seems to me that ESPN hasn't jumped on the cp3 trade rumors/talks as much as they could be
Seems like they've taken a break today but they were all over it yesterday
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 7/23/10 at 9:27 am to
CP, Emeka, Juju

For

Gallanari, Curry, Turiaf, Randolph, Azubuke
Posted by Shankopotomus
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Posted on 7/23/10 at 9:27 am to
That radio crew sure has, I was only in the car for about 30 mins tops this morning and heard at least two segments on ESPN purely about CP3 and where he will play next season and other related BS
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471567 posts
Posted on 7/23/10 at 9:32 am to
well a superstar being traded is a big deal

the news came out over the weekend, so being a big monday story is logical

and it is a dead time in sports. they could be running this into the ground like lebron-gate
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
128930 posts
Posted on 7/23/10 at 9:34 am to
Yeah Eric Kasileus (sp?) said clearly Orlando has the best package to give

WTF. Orlando has, by far, the worst package to give. Just dog shite awful.
Posted by eyeran
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2007
22204 posts
Posted on 7/23/10 at 9:36 am to
quote:

CP, Emeka, Juju

For

Gallanari, Curry, Turiaf, Randolph, Azubuke
First see if you can get Chandler instead of Azubuke, if not go ahead and do it, imo.

Collison
Thornton/Azubuke
Gallo/Randolph
West/Randolph
Curry/ Turiaf/Randolph

If a deal similar to that one goes down, for some reason, i see West also getting moved.

We start Randolph at PF and i think we could either get a C to replace Curry or legit-sized starting SG
Posted by MrPappagiorgio
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2009
41125 posts
Posted on 7/23/10 at 9:37 am to
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legit-sized starting SG


Iggy towards the trade deadline.

Posted by Shankopotomus
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Posted on 7/23/10 at 9:37 am to
quote:

Eric Kasileus (sp?) said clearly Orlando has the best package to give


yep, I heard this too. He then cited Nelson, Gortat, and Carter as getting a solid PG and expirings in return. BWAHA----HAHA----HAHAHAHA
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