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re: Pels trade to 13
Posted on 6/25/25 at 9:27 pm to RIPMachoMan
Posted on 6/25/25 at 9:27 pm to RIPMachoMan
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Okay, so here is my question… if this individual becomes an all star in the next few years and you return to argue this bad value trade… What do you think the responses will be? My prediction, you’ll get a laughably large amount of downvotes and ridicule.
If the Pels end up having no pick next year and their pick or the Bucks’ ends up to 3 or 4? Yes. It’s a bad trade. You gave up another top prospect for the right to draft a good player.
It’s not about the player. It’s about what you gave up for them by not protecting the pick. The trade is bad irrelevant if what the player becomes. Do you not understand that?
My guess is Dumars dumbass thinks Queen is the next Ben Wallace. Undersized center
I literally think he is trying to rebuild that 2003-2004 Pistons team he won with. Except with his strategy from after that team that helped destroy the Pistons.
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Posted on 6/25/25 at 9:28 pm to eyeran
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Bryson Graham spent a few weeks with these morons, and ran to Atlanta.
He knew the whole way he could sucker those guys.
shite
Didn't even think about this
Posted on 6/25/25 at 9:28 pm to eyeran
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Honestly wouldn't surprise me if Dumars doesn't even know he gave up control of next year's draft.
Yeah control of the “random” ball selection process
Posted on 6/25/25 at 9:29 pm to RIPMachoMan
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I mean, if you are trying to find the negative in everything. If he turns out to be awesome, and you call people idiots for thinking the gamble didn’t pay off… then what are we even talking about?
I already explained this
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In poker, going all-in for 5x pot on the turn when you have a 2-outer can work if that 5% hits on the river, but does that make it a good decision in hindsight if you find yourself on the good side of that variance? Or was it always a bad decision with a small chance of working out (without the expected value to justify the risk)?
Posted on 6/25/25 at 9:29 pm to Soggymoss
Traded two 2026 draft picks for Queen. WTF
Posted on 6/25/25 at 9:31 pm to Geauxgurt
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It’s not about the player. It’s about what you gave up for them by not protecting the pick. The trade is bad irrelevant if what the player becomes. Do you not understand that?
Again, bs. This isn’t the nfl with dozens of players. You need to land and luck out on a handful as your base then bench. What core starters are we working with reliably?
This gamble may fail and is more likely than not. That said, if our picks hit I really don’t think folks will be bummed about it
Posted on 6/25/25 at 9:33 pm to RIPMachoMan
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Again, bs. This isn’t the nfl with dozens of players. You need to land and luck out on a handful as your base then bench. What core starters are we working with reliably?
It’s not BS. Top 4 picks are far more likely to be successful than later picks in the lottery. Don’t kid yourself.
They allow much more flexibility and an ability at a better shot for a better player that fills a key need.
Instead, you think it is fine just to give up that potential for no reason.
There was no reason to not protect the picks.
Posted on 6/25/25 at 9:33 pm to Soggymoss
Why not trade the next year first ? Lmao you all never learn tabking don’t work , we lose all year and get another no 9-13 pick lol no difference
Posted on 6/25/25 at 9:34 pm to Geauxgurt
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Top 4 picks are far more likely to be successful than later picks in the lottery. Don’t kid yourself.
Okay and we are guaranteed top 4 next year how?
This post was edited on 6/25/25 at 9:34 pm
Posted on 6/25/25 at 9:34 pm to RIPMachoMan
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Okay and we are guaranteed top 4 next year how?
Holy fricking shite
Posted on 6/25/25 at 9:35 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Bryson officially got to Atlanta a week ago. He absolutely knew Weaver had a hard on for Queen.
shite
Didn't even think about this
Posted on 6/25/25 at 9:36 pm to SlowFlowPro
You don’t know that
Posted on 6/25/25 at 9:37 pm to eyeran
Man reading reports on Queen and it makes the trade even more terrible.
Undersized, unathletic big who tires on D and sucks.
Could be an offensive 4 who puts up stats on a bad team, but we have Zion.
Undersized, unathletic big who tires on D and sucks.
Could be an offensive 4 who puts up stats on a bad team, but we have Zion.
Posted on 6/25/25 at 9:38 pm to RIPMachoMan
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You don’t know that
I know decision analysis quite well.
Posted on 6/25/25 at 9:40 pm to SlowFlowPro
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In poker, going all-in for 5x pot on the turn when you have a 2-outer can work if that 5% hits on the river, but does that make it a good decision in hindsight if you find yourself on the good side of that variance? Or was it always a bad decision with a small chance of working out (without the expected value to justify the risk)?
But the draft isn't random chance! This isn't about probabilities; it's about scouting and analysis.
There was lots of talk in the last few days that we might take Queen with #7. Dumars obviously believes that Queen was worthy of being selected with that spot. It's clear that, in Dumars's mind, he wasn't trading up to #13, but up to #7, since that's where he had slotted him.
As I said, I have zero problem with that ... today. But Dumars has to be right, or the trade will define his tenure here in New Orleans. Because, as everyone agrees, it's a terrible trade on paper.
Posted on 6/25/25 at 9:42 pm to GOP_Tiger
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Because, as everyone agrees, it's a terrible trade on paper.
It is terrible
It isn't also what's going to define our draft position next year either.
That part is on Zion trey and Poole to win some fricking games
Posted on 6/25/25 at 9:43 pm to RIPMachoMan
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Okay and we are guaranteed top 4 next year how?
Where did I say it was guaranteed? But you are the one not understanding there was a chance. Now it is guaranteed……that the Pelicans will not have a 1st round pick at all next season and have no shot at a top 4 pick.
Again, you make deals with those things considered, but typical stupidity between this ownership and a leader that everyone laughed at the Pels for hiring are doing exactly the stupid things people thought he would.
Posted on 6/25/25 at 9:43 pm to yaboidarrell
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Traded two 2026 draft picks for Queen. WTF
No we didn’t.
We traded 1.
Posted on 6/25/25 at 9:43 pm to Fun Bunch
Look, I'm sure Derik Davenport will be great.
Posted on 6/25/25 at 9:43 pm to whatiknowsofar
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It isn't also what's going to define our draft position next year either.
We don’t have a draft position next year. We don’t have a pick.
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