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Posted on 7/3/23 at 11:28 am to Pels_Yaz
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Our draft capital is not tons. Thats a myth. Lot of teams have more capital than us.
Like maybe 4? None who have close to the core we have (other than maybe OKC)
In addition to the capital we have from other teams, we haven't touched our own, brother.
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Go ahead because potential doesn’t matter wheb the one guy can’t stay healthy.
Dame can't stay healthy.
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I dont think hes hit 70 once and three of those years are under 30 games. Yeah the health argument especially comparing any guy to Zion will not help you here.
Dame is a decade older. Do you think he'll be more healthy as he gets even older?
This post was edited on 7/3/23 at 11:29 am
Posted on 7/3/23 at 11:33 am to SlowFlowPro
Maybe 4? Thats a lot of teams wheb you’re trying to trade for someone and 4 teams can easily outbid you based on draft capital. And brother, eventually those picks expire why not use it now? For a superstar who wants out??
You think Zion will stay more healthy and in shape as he gets older? When he hasn’t when he wasn’t younger???!! I trust Dame with his age more than I trust Zion with his weight issues.
You think Zion will stay more healthy and in shape as he gets older? When he hasn’t when he wasn’t younger???!! I trust Dame with his age more than I trust Zion with his weight issues.
Posted on 7/3/23 at 11:35 am to Pels_Yaz
quote:This presupposes that all 4 teams are making offers, which isn't realistic.
Maybe 4? Thats a lot of teams wheb you’re trying to trade for someone and 4 teams can easily outbid you based on draft capital.
Is OKC going to make a big Dame offer?
This post was edited on 7/3/23 at 11:36 am
Posted on 7/3/23 at 11:38 am to shel311
You’re also assuming they might not. Which is just as unrealistic. Now you’re just arguing that my assumption is better than yours lol
Posted on 7/3/23 at 11:39 am to Pels_Yaz
quote:Counterpoint... I didn't.
You’re also assuming they might not
quote:Luckily for me, I didn't do that.
Which is just as unrealistic.
This post was edited on 7/3/23 at 11:40 am
Posted on 7/3/23 at 11:41 am to Pels_Yaz
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Thats a lot of teams wheb you’re trying to trade for someone and 4 teams can easily outbid you based on draft capital.
Houston can't trade for him
Utah wouldn't, and why would Dame go there?
OKC would have a hard time trading for him
Nobody said those 4 teams would be in play for Dame, just that they have more assets.
Posted on 7/3/23 at 11:44 am to shel311
What are you talking about. I was arguing that its a myth we have all this capital when other teams have more. Never mentioned those teamd woukd trade for Dame. Lol
Posted on 7/3/23 at 11:49 am to shel311
Yeah man. You’re hopeless to argue with. Just saying you didn’t do something doesn’t mean you didn’t but ok. At the end of the day, you’re on the CJ BI Zion championship or bust bandwagon got it. I’ll surely eat my crow if you’re right. But I hope you can do the same.
Posted on 7/3/23 at 11:51 am to Pels_Yaz
quote:You incorrectly stated a lot of teams had more assets than us.
I was arguing that its a myth we have all this capital when other teams have more.
That's it. It's ok to concede you didn't realize the # of teams that had more assets than us was much smaller than you thought. But you felt it necessary to keep arguing it once you realized it was only a small handful of teams.
It is what it is.
Posted on 7/3/23 at 11:53 am to Pels_Yaz
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What are you talking about. I was arguing that its a myth we have all this capital when other teams have more.
This whole digression is in response to this post of mine:
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We also have a ton of draft capital and young talent to acquire pieces around that trio.
Stop trying to change the argument once your shitty takes are exposed for the stupid bullshite they are.
Posted on 7/3/23 at 11:53 am to Pels_Yaz
quote:Says the guy who keeps saying I'm using the same logic in 2 "similar" scenarios when the 2 scenarios is a $32 million difference in contracts. Says the guy who thinks a "lot of teams" have more draft assets than us.
Yeah man. You’re hopeless to argue with.
Ok, sure thing buddy.
Posted on 7/3/23 at 11:54 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:He realized his "lots of teams" have more draft assets was wrong, so then he pivoted to keep arguing it instead of just saying, "we do have more draft assets than i initially thought"
Stop trying to change the argument once your shitty takes are exposed for the stupid bullshite they are.
This post was edited on 7/3/23 at 11:55 am
Posted on 7/3/23 at 11:57 am to shel311
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He realized his "lots of teams" have more draft assets was wrong, so then he pivoted to keep arguing it instead of just saying, "we do have more draft assets than i initially thought"
He says "lots of teams have more capital" in response to a post of mine talking about acquiring talent around Zion/BI/Trey, and then argues that he wasn't talking about teams who weren't going to trade for Dame
Posted on 7/3/23 at 11:59 am to lsutigers23
No, you don’t do that yesterday. You want to trade a 22 year old superstar for an over 30 superstar with a lot of miles on his tires AND give them a 1st? Glad you aren’t making the calls.
Posted on 7/3/23 at 12:00 pm to SlowFlowPro
Ok smart arse the Jazz were interested in Dame. Thats a team with more assets than us. Happy I didnt pivot?? and still beat your dumb argument.
Posted on 7/3/23 at 12:02 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:He's on the list of dudes who can't have simple debates with people without losing their minds and flipping out.
He says "lots of teams have more capital" in response to a post of mine talking about acquiring talent around Zion/BI/Trey, and then argues that he wasn't talking about teams who weren't going to trade for Dame
Chalk it up to that
Posted on 7/3/23 at 12:14 pm to shel311
Lol im done man. Again you keep going extreme on this. Just go get laid man or get a beer. I have no idea who Bronc is. First I’m MM then im Bronc lol maybe Im not the only one who has issues with your arguments- just saying. Maybe its the fact you just disagree with a bunch of people but again just chill im done. You’ll probably criticize me on this post as well.
Posted on 7/3/23 at 12:18 pm to Pels_Yaz
quote:"arrogant dick"
Again you keep going extreme on this. Just go get laid man or get a beer.
"you're hopeless"
"frick off"
I wish I was as laid back as you're being right now.
quote:"arrogant dick"
just chill
"you're hopeless"
"frick off"
I wish I was as chill as you are right now
quote:yea, that's now message boards work. You get critized when you say you can't debate like a rational human and resort to saying dumb shite.
You’ll probably criticize me on this post as well.
The way to stop getting criticized would be for you to stop saying dumb shite. Up to you to decide on that, I can't make you stop saying dumb shite, only you can do that.
This post was edited on 7/3/23 at 12:19 pm
Posted on 7/3/23 at 12:22 pm to Pels_Yaz
There’s no reason to break up the big 3 unless a deal dictates we get better value and/or financial relief. There’s no reason to break it up just for the sake of doing it though. We still only have a few games with them all together and those games we were a top 5 NBA team. If Zion decides to figure it out, and a big if, then the sky is the limit for the team and you’d want guys like CJ there. He played hurt all last year and still played well enough to justify his contract. I think he’s better this year. Age isn’t as big of an issue with CJ since he takes care of his body and eats right so I’m not worried about him slowing down. BI is worth his max deal also so you really can’t say we are overpaying anyone but Zion and that is only because he never plays, not his ability.
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