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Zion for KAT. Does both teams get better if health is guaranteed hypothetically?

Posted on 1/15/26 at 7:24 am
Posted by Large Professor
Member since Nov 2025
34 posts
Posted on 1/15/26 at 7:24 am
I think Zion makes NY a better team and I think KAT makes NO a better team going forward, especially with the rookies KAT would be playing with abd the defensive players Zion would be with. I think NY can beat the Pistons with Zion but they can't beat them with KAT.

What y'all think as Pelicans fans? I know KAT is soft as hell but dude can rebound and score efficiently on some pick and pop type shite. Zion fits perfectly into their system also. Win win situation imo.
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
19222 posts
Posted on 1/15/26 at 7:28 am to
I am on the Zion for anyone bandwagon. My default answer to anyone proposed is Yes
Posted by jmcwhrter
Member since Nov 2012
7761 posts
Posted on 1/15/26 at 7:28 am to
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I know KAT is soft as hell


Whatever player you trade for, you have to assume they will give 70% effort at best once they get to New Orleans

They'll sit thru minor injuries and they'll embrace their worst playing habits because... its the Pelicans..... who gives a shite
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
19222 posts
Posted on 1/15/26 at 7:30 am to
So we are getting Zion?
Posted by jmcwhrter
Member since Nov 2012
7761 posts
Posted on 1/15/26 at 7:32 am to
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So we are getting Zion?


And the Knicks would likely get the good version of Zion
Posted by Mad Scientist26
Member since Jul 2018
2281 posts
Posted on 1/15/26 at 8:08 am to
Yes I’m sure the Knicks fan will love a guy who’s always injured and doesn’t play defense and no jump shot. That’s gonna end well!
Posted by jmcwhrter
Member since Nov 2012
7761 posts
Posted on 1/15/26 at 10:54 am to
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Yes I’m sure the Knicks fan will love a guy who’s always injured and doesn’t play defense and no jump shot. That’s gonna end well!


My point being -- when he arrives at MSG suddenly those 'injuries' arent as serious and he starts doing all the things we wished he would do here

Posted by iykyk985
Member since Dec 2025
24 posts
Posted on 1/15/26 at 11:43 am to
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This post was edited on 1/15/26 at 11:50 am
Posted by Large Professor
Member since Nov 2025
34 posts
Posted on 1/15/26 at 12:22 pm to
This is what I'm getting at. What's crazy is that the franchise of NO has ALWAYS held his minutes back and never allowed him to get into a rhythm by playing 10 minutes straight.

To be honest, I don't think he's ever played 10 minutes straight in his whole career and that counts periods where he was completely healthy. Never played 10 minutes in a row but nobody thinks that constantly starting and stopping your muscles from working could contribute to injury

No star player or player on Zions level has ever not played 10 minutes straight. It's so ridiculous it can give fans a reason to look at it as a reason he's constantly hurt, because no player has ever had to deal with this.
Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
7804 posts
Posted on 1/15/26 at 12:29 pm to
I don't see how this helps NY at all.

KAT is a fricking clown but a clown that can shoot.

Zion is hurt more, scores less, can't shoot.
Posted by 3PieceSpicy
Metairie
Member since Jan 2021
7862 posts
Posted on 1/15/26 at 12:48 pm to
That's about the most roundabout way for ignoring that someone has been fat, out of shape, and has had injury problems for the last 7 years that I have ever seen. It's 1000000% Zion's fault that he can't play 10 minutes straight. It's a him issue. He's borderline unplayable on defense in minute 1. What do you think he would look like at minute 11 or 12?
Posted by Demps
Member since Oct 2025
312 posts
Posted on 1/15/26 at 1:29 pm to
No way Knicks do this. They would rather Giannis if they are trading KAT.
Posted by Jay31
Member since Aug 2024
458 posts
Posted on 1/15/26 at 1:36 pm to
He could move in with Jake Haener
Posted by Large Professor
Member since Nov 2025
34 posts
Posted on 1/15/26 at 2:02 pm to
Has the alternative ever helped?

We all know it hasn't, so Why not at least try it? Maybe he does get hurt. Maybe he has his first serious injury because of it. But all his injuries are shite they can be attributed to constantly starting and stopping working your muscles. It just gives folks an excuse.

If we never seen the alternative, and he is literally the only great player in NBA history who's minutes have been handled like this, wtf is wrong with at least trying something different?

What they have been doing has not worked AT ALL right? So why not?
This post was edited on 1/15/26 at 2:03 pm
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
32038 posts
Posted on 1/15/26 at 2:09 pm to
KAT availability would make us better and it'll allow Queen to be more of a natural PF.

Zion would make NYC worse because they're undersized and lost shooting
Posted by LSUgrad88
Member since Jun 2009
8591 posts
Posted on 1/15/26 at 5:16 pm to
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and he is literally the only great player in NBA history


Hold on now; when did this happen. Zion is or has been great?? When was this, and why was it not televised so we could watch?
Posted by Delusional
Member since Dec 2018
6317 posts
Posted on 1/15/26 at 6:09 pm to
Jonas filled that role pretty well. Oops
Posted by canone4life
Member since Apr 2025
61 posts
Posted on 1/15/26 at 7:40 pm to
They does not.
Posted by SHMILL
The foothills of CO
Member since Oct 2009
1053 posts
Posted on 1/15/26 at 7:47 pm to
Better watch out for the dude who comes to tell you how bad your analysis of trades in thr nba are - he takes this shite serious.
Posted by ForeverEllisHugh
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
16434 posts
Posted on 1/15/26 at 8:49 pm to
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KAT is a fricking clown


How so? He was on Seth Meyers the other night and came across as a really likable guy; much moreso than Zion.
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