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re: Butler left w/o deal
Posted on 3/22/13 at 7:06 pm to jralspanky
Posted on 3/22/13 at 7:06 pm to jralspanky
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WWL reported he was offered. His price was 3-4 million per year
Assuming this is true, I assume we offered less than that?
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Posted on 3/22/13 at 7:45 pm to Sentrius
Read some Steelers blogger a few days ago that said Butler was looking for ~$5-6m a year. If he's asking for $3-4m/yr I don't think that there's any way that we would have not satisfied that.
And going to the Browns could very well cost him money in the long run, even if they offer more than us. Kruger and Sheard are clear cut starters. He'd be going right back to playing behind a really good OLB pair. I can't imagine the Browns, even if they have a ton of cap space, paying their 3rd OLB ~$5m/yr. He'd start at LOLB for us and, with our offense, have a lot of opportunities to rack up sacks. A 3 year deal would have him hitting the market at 28, so he'd still be in line for another good contract.
And going to the Browns could very well cost him money in the long run, even if they offer more than us. Kruger and Sheard are clear cut starters. He'd be going right back to playing behind a really good OLB pair. I can't imagine the Browns, even if they have a ton of cap space, paying their 3rd OLB ~$5m/yr. He'd start at LOLB for us and, with our offense, have a lot of opportunities to rack up sacks. A 3 year deal would have him hitting the market at 28, so he'd still be in line for another good contract.
This post was edited on 3/22/13 at 7:48 pm
Posted on 3/22/13 at 7:45 pm to Sentrius
We offered 2.5 and season passes to the Audubon institute
Posted on 3/22/13 at 7:56 pm to THRILLHO
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I can't imagine the Browns, even if they have a ton of cap space, paying their 3rd OLB ~$5m/yr. He'd start at LOLB for us and, with our offense, have a lot of opportunities to rack up sacks.
The new CBA requires teams to spend an average of 88.8% of the CAP or $110+ million per year over a four year period.
They almost need to spend the money.
This post was edited on 3/22/13 at 7:57 pm
Posted on 3/22/13 at 9:34 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
We're entering the phase of free agency where teams aren't throwing out offers players can't refuse. The big names have leverage in the first phase. Now you'll see someone like Butler make the rounds and have to figure out what is the best deal for him. After this phase is established it will escalate quickly to players signing for whatever they can get before the offering money runs out.
He visits Cleveland Monday. Haven't read of any other visits for him after that. He would prolly make his decision before the end of next week if that's the case.
He visits Cleveland Monday. Haven't read of any other visits for him after that. He would prolly make his decision before the end of next week if that's the case.
Posted on 3/22/13 at 10:00 pm to Chad504boy
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There was zero reason to be overly confident
Most probably right. Looks like Butler is price shopping. If that's right, Browns have the money to put on the table (Saints and Steelers don't).
Posted on 3/22/13 at 11:45 pm to Chad504boy
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season passes to the Audubon institute
If this includes the Insectarium I don't see how he left that offer on the table.
Posted on 3/22/13 at 11:54 pm to belowmebama
The insectarium was a letdown imo
Posted on 3/23/13 at 5:31 am to Brageous
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I mean it's still possible to get him, right?
Very much so.
Unfortunately most of our posters are poster boys for the microwave generation.
Posted on 3/23/13 at 5:33 am to VOR
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What is it with this man love for this guy. I mean he's a damned solid player, but he isn't a savior.
What did Joe Horn do in KC?
Posted on 3/23/13 at 5:35 am to belowmebama
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season passes to the Audubon institute
If this includes the Insectarium I don't see how he left that offer on the table.
This +googleplex to the googleplex
Posted on 3/23/13 at 5:36 am to Hoodoo Man
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The insectarium was a letdown imo
STFU
Posted on 3/23/13 at 6:48 am to Hugo Stiglitz
You didn't really compare a 26 yr old pro bowl qb coming in to the prime of his career to a 32 yr old cb coming off his two worst seasons did you?
Posted on 3/23/13 at 7:58 am to jralspanky
quote:If it comes down to that, I don't see them being able to sign Butler and Nhamdi.
His price was 3-4 million per year
Posted on 3/23/13 at 9:37 am to Chad504boy
@JazzyJeff #Cowboys - As suspected, Payton's meeting with Butler was to establish contacts with Dallas players so he is familiar with his players when he takes over as Cowboys coach next year.
Posted on 3/23/13 at 9:38 am to Suntiger
Posted on 3/23/13 at 9:40 am to Bduhon55
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If it comes down to that, I don't see them being able to sign Butler and Nhamdi.
Sure they can; just means someone (or more) will go. I don't see us really paying Ivory $2 Mill...just for starters.
Posted on 3/23/13 at 10:28 am to SaintLSUnAtl
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You didn't really compare a 26 yr old pro bowl qb coming in to the prime of his career to a 32 yr old cb coming off his two worst seasons did you?
Why yes. Yes he did.
Posted on 3/23/13 at 10:31 am to Sophandros
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What did Joe Horn do in KC?
Huh? Not a lot. What's your point?
Apples, oranges, bananas
Posted on 3/23/13 at 10:31 am to SaintLSUnAtl
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You didn't really compare a 26 yr old pro bowl qb coming in to the prime of his career to a 32 yr old cb coming off his two worst seasons did you?
Yes I did and you obviously missed the whole point that they are both risky acquisitions.
Brees was coming off a huge arm surgery. The Chargers were convinced enough he was not the answer and decided to let him go for Phillip fricking Rivers.
Many teams probably saw Brees as damaged goods and weren't willing to take a risk in hopes he would return to pro bowl form.
Nnamdi's situation is similar in that aspect.
This post was edited on 3/23/13 at 10:35 am
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