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re: If the Saints do trade up to #1….
Posted on 3/27/25 at 10:03 am to Fun Bunch
Posted on 3/27/25 at 10:03 am to Fun Bunch
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I mean you prove my point. The Saints being terrible at drafting is why we can't do it, not why we can.
I don't see that point.
Look, i'm ok with your preference of not trading away a bit of haul of picks. That's cool. There definitely are downsides to whatever move is made.
But, i just disagree with blanket statements of hyperboles that generalize guaranteed results and different ways for a team to build for the future.
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Posted on 3/27/25 at 10:06 am to NewBeginnings
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NewBeginnings
Are you going to be our new daddy?
Posted on 3/27/25 at 10:06 am to Chad504boy
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I don't see that point.
I know.
BECAUSE the Saints have drafted so poorly, they do not have a very talented roster, and have one of the least deep rosters in the NFL.
That coupled with the cap approach has left them extremely thin.
Now, if you move up for a QB, you don't have any depth, you are not overly talented, and you don't have much of draft path to add that talent for 2 years. It has to be through FA and hitting on later picks, and you get yourself back into the eternal kick the can dance even though you have a rookie QB contract.
And I am one of those people that argues all the time that if you don't have a QB, you have to focus on doing whatever you can to get one. The Saints have just put themselves in a position where those paths to success are limited.
Posted on 3/27/25 at 10:16 am to Snipe
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Also, the offensive coordinators son who is a QB is playing just up the road and will be set to enter the 2026 NFL draft. Say what you want but it's on the minds of the people on Airline drive.
It would be so fitting if we broke our first round qb slump to take a guy who is half retarded.
Posted on 3/27/25 at 10:42 am to NewBeginnings
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Can Ward could become a slightly above average QB if he is drafted into a supportive situation ( we are not). He is not a franchise rescuer.
You have no way of knowing this. If Cam Ward ends up being someone's franchise QB for the next 15 years, you would be asking yourself why didn't we trade a couple of first rounders for him.
Posted on 3/27/25 at 10:45 am to LSBoosie
If we do it I hope it turns out great.
He will have done it despite the Saints situation and that will already make him great
He will have done it despite the Saints situation and that will already make him great
Posted on 3/27/25 at 10:47 am to Fun Bunch
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despite the Saints situation
jesus fricking christ.
Posted on 3/27/25 at 10:50 am to Chad504boy
I really don't know why you get so defensive about it.
Acknowledging reality is just that. It is what it is.
The Saints have put themselves in a bad situation.
I do think they have made strides this offseason to work towards getting out of it.
Acknowledging reality is just that. It is what it is.
The Saints have put themselves in a bad situation.
I do think they have made strides this offseason to work towards getting out of it.
Posted on 3/27/25 at 10:52 am to Fun Bunch
you're repeatingly regurgitating the laziest of narratives out there. you've let the national media poison your brain.
Posted on 3/27/25 at 10:56 am to Chad504boy
There's nothing lazy about it. Its true.
They are old. They are not talented. They have no depth.
These are the results of several objective things:
1) Drafting poorly with limited selections
2) Cap shenanigans
Its reality. They may get better despite that. We will see.
They are old. They are not talented. They have no depth.
These are the results of several objective things:
1) Drafting poorly with limited selections
2) Cap shenanigans
Its reality. They may get better despite that. We will see.
Posted on 3/27/25 at 10:59 am to Fun Bunch
Amen, amen, amen to everything Fun Bunch said.
And I will add that the moves the Saints have already made--restructuring contracts to keep veteran players and FA signings--are inconsistent with then giving away a lot of assets to move up to pick Ward. it would be a complete mismatch for at least a couple years.
If the front office thinks Ward is a future HOFer, they should have been structuring their moves to allow them to make a play for him AND build a young team around him.
And I will add that the moves the Saints have already made--restructuring contracts to keep veteran players and FA signings--are inconsistent with then giving away a lot of assets to move up to pick Ward. it would be a complete mismatch for at least a couple years.
If the front office thinks Ward is a future HOFer, they should have been structuring their moves to allow them to make a play for him AND build a young team around him.
Posted on 3/27/25 at 11:08 am to N.O. via West-Cal
And despite what I am saying, if they do do it, I am not going to freak out, because I DO believe that if you are going to make a major move, its for a QB. Everything you do should be about finding a QB when you don't have one.
You do it for a QB, not Marcus Davenport or Chris Olave/Trevor Penning.
I think we will be putting him in a less than ideal situation to succeed, however.
You do it for a QB, not Marcus Davenport or Chris Olave/Trevor Penning.
I think we will be putting him in a less than ideal situation to succeed, however.
Posted on 3/27/25 at 11:12 am to Fun Bunch
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They are old. They are not talented. They have no depth.
bunchie.... you've fallen off the deep end. you have drowned in your own poison koolaid and can no longer see clearly. I'll be here for you.
nothing old at all about kamara, our offensive line, our positional players except for taysom, chase is young, werner young, lots of younger parts on d line mixed with vets, reid is young, koolaid, taylor, on and on.
even carr's age ain't even really a short term issue.
you are unconsciously unhinged and deranged.
Posted on 3/27/25 at 11:38 am to N.O. via West-Cal
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And I will add that the moves the Saints have already made--restructuring contracts to keep veteran players and FA signings--are inconsistent with then giving away a lot of assets to move up to pick Ward.
The restructures HAD to be done. It was the only way to become cap compliant by March 12th & have the necessary cap space to sign draft picks & UDFA's. Some of you simply don't comprehend how these things work at all yet want to come post some opinion as a fact with nothing to even back it up. Even the Carr restructure has allowed for an out next offseason.
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New Orleans Saints: The Saints are cuffed to Derek Carr for his age-34 season. However, his contract runs out of guaranteed money in 2026, the last season of his four-year, $150 million contract. Releasing Carr after the upcoming season could save New Orleans $32.8 million in cap space. Carr and the Saints are together for better or worse this year, while in 2026 with Carr's cap hit set to balloon to $61.5 million.
This post was edited on 3/27/25 at 12:09 pm
Posted on 3/27/25 at 11:40 am to Chad504boy
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nothing old at all about kamara
This isn’t dealing in reality.
Posted on 3/27/25 at 11:41 am to Chad504boy
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bunchie.... you've fallen off the deep end.
They have not made the playoffs since Brees left.
The numbers don't lie
In 2024 the Saints were the 4th Oldest Team in the entire league.
There's no deep end there is just reality. I like some of the moves they have made this offseason. I love the coaching staff.
There is good, there is bad. There is what is actually real.
Posted on 3/27/25 at 11:41 am to Chad504boy
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you are unconsciously unhinged and deranged.
That simply is the description of the average poster nowadays. All hot takes with no substance or reasoning.
Posted on 3/27/25 at 11:43 am to BigBrod81
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All hot takes with no substance or reasoning.
Do you think my posts in this thread make up "hot takes" and that of someone unhinged about the Saints?
That is crazy man. They are purely logical takes.
The Saints do good things. They do bad things. We call balls and strikes.
Posted on 3/27/25 at 11:48 am to Fun Bunch
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In 2024 the Saints were the 4th Oldest Team in the entire league.
There's no deep end there is just reality. I like some of the moves they have made this offseason. I love the coaching staff.
There is good, there is bad. There is what is actually real.
Your expectations of completely going from an "older" roster to a young roster in one offseason especially with the cap situation is unrealistic. Everyone with a brain knew the restructures to several veterans were coming in order to create the necessary cap space this offseason. That in itself would continue to keep the Saints having one of the "oldest" rosters because of the ages of some who had to be restructured.
Posted on 3/27/25 at 11:52 am to Fun Bunch
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They have not made the playoffs since Brees left. The numbers don't lie
Jesus fricking Christ.
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