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Posted on 1/22/09 at 11:07 am to
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
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Posted on 1/22/09 at 11:07 am to
thats easy to say now
Posted by simmons2112
Member since May 2008
3184 posts
Posted on 1/22/09 at 11:17 am to
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thats easy to say now


That was easy to say then. During the draft, people couldn't understand the Molden pick. Wayyyy too high and it was said then.
Posted by TiegerTim
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2007
3087 posts
Posted on 1/22/09 at 11:20 am to
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thats easy to say now


i know, i know....

but, i was sayin it then too....
i remember when it happened i was in my truck listenin to Buddy D, Mike D and Kenny W. breaking down the draft.. when they announced the Molden pick I went crazy... i was screamin at the radio, goin down the road in my truck...
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
289584 posts
Posted on 1/22/09 at 11:22 am to
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During the draft, people couldn't understand the Molden pick. Wayyyy too high and it was said then.


naw, not really.
Posted by TiegerTim
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2007
3087 posts
Posted on 1/22/09 at 11:25 am to
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naw, not really


then we were listening to different people...


i don't have time to do the research, but can anyone pull up the grades on the Saints draft from that year... it wasn't very good, then or now...
Posted by The Sad Banana
The gate is narrow.
Member since Jul 2008
89507 posts
Posted on 1/22/09 at 11:36 am to
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IMO at no time was Alex worth being picked where he was. Esp. when you consider Eddie George, among others, was on the draft board at the time the Saints picked.
According to your logic, Marques Colston and Antonio Pittman should have been selected in the 4th and 7th rounds, respectively, instead of the 7th and 4th rounds.
Posted by Suntiger
STG or BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
35910 posts
Posted on 1/22/09 at 11:40 am to
If I remember correctly, people thought Molden was a reach, but we needed a CB so they were ok with it. I think people were more excited about picking Je'Rod Cherry and Brady Smith.


Damn... We passed on Eddie George, Ray Lewis, Brian Dawkins, Johnathan Ogden, Lawyer Maloy and Eddie Kennison.
Posted by TiegerTim
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2007
3087 posts
Posted on 1/22/09 at 11:43 am to
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According to your logic, Marques Colston and Antonio Pittman should have been selected in the 4th and 7th rounds, respectively, instead of the 7th and 4th rounds.


ok.. don't see where you get this from... Alex Molden was never a first round pick.. do some research... MOST people, thought this was a horrible pick at this position. Couple that with there coveted second round pick of JeRod Cherry, or however you spell his name, and the Saints were one of the Day one laughers at the '96 draft... AT THAT TIME.. looking back at it now, the same holds true....

There are tons of examples of people that were drafted lower than other that did better than those drafted before them..

During the Colston draft, or even right after it, there was nobody saying "boy we shoulda drafted Colston in the fourth"... we can say that now, but not then....

the Molden draft you could see it then!!!
Posted by Whodat1
Madisonville, LA
Member since Feb 2007
509 posts
Posted on 1/22/09 at 11:43 am to
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Unless he's using the "take the best player available" approach, in which the Saints should trade down and get a later first and maybe a second round pick out of that deal to take either of those two LBs.


Personally, I would like us to trade down and take a Safety with the first pick, and use a later pick on a LB and CB.
Who is the best Safety available?
After watching the playoffs this year how valuable is Polamalu and Ed Reed? The safety position is our weakest link.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
289584 posts
Posted on 1/22/09 at 11:43 am to
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Johnathan Ogden




quote:

Eddie Kennison.


Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
289584 posts
Posted on 1/22/09 at 11:44 am to
so that means we shouldnt take a CB this year?
Posted by TiegerTim
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2007
3087 posts
Posted on 1/22/09 at 11:47 am to
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so that means we shouldnt take a CB this year?


no, thats not what that means.... it means the saints sucked in the '96 draft is all... didn't do a good job evaluating talent.. it they were going to pick Molden they should have traded down to get xtra picks.. it still now would look like a bad pick, b/c he sucked. but it would have been better than pickin him at 11.....
Posted by VA LSU fan
Virginia
Member since Dec 2007
8727 posts
Posted on 1/22/09 at 11:53 am to
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i don't know if JL or BC fit what we need at LB

JL is an undersized MLB, and we have a MLB

BC is more of a 3-4 rush LB than a true WLB



I agree that I am on the fence with JL and BC, but in his draft Rey Maualuga is available. If he is there I hope we take him and not look back. I couldn't imagine Dunbar, Vilma, and Maualuga out there at linebacker.....that is a hard hitting crew.
Posted by The Sad Banana
The gate is narrow.
Member since Jul 2008
89507 posts
Posted on 1/22/09 at 12:08 pm to
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Who is the best Safety available?
Fellas correct me if I'm wrong, but I think since Mays stayed at USC, the best safety is William Moore of Mizzou.
Posted by VA LSU fan
Virginia
Member since Dec 2007
8727 posts
Posted on 1/22/09 at 12:16 pm to
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Fellas correct me if I'm wrong, but I think since Mays stayed at USC, the best safety is William Moore of Mizzou.


Mays stayed and as of now Moore is the highest rated. I would much rather our little free agency money we will have go towards Dawkins from Philedelphia or Landry from Baltimore. Skip draftiong a safety and get either a linebacker, cornerback or Chris "Beanie" Wells.
Posted by hobo with a rolex
everywhere
Member since Sep 2006
3203 posts
Posted on 1/22/09 at 1:08 pm to
Am I the only one that thinks Kiper is retarded for the following:

28th pick Philadelphia (from Carolina) Michael Oher OT Mississippi

unless Oher runs a 8.8 40 and scores a 2 on the wonderlic I just do not see any way in hell he falls to 28
This post was edited on 1/22/09 at 1:09 pm
Posted by STEALTH
Kansas
Member since Feb 2008
958 posts
Posted on 1/22/09 at 1:50 pm to
I wouldn't be suprised to see Peyton draft Greene or another running back at #14. The Saints need help at the RB position. Now everyone knows that we need help on defense but you got to be smart with this pick. If you are not getting quality at CB or Safety then you have to look at LB. If your not satisfied you have to take a RB IMO,
Posted by LSUtigahs28
Member since Sep 2008
14561 posts
Posted on 1/22/09 at 1:59 pm to
quote:

The Saints need help at the RB position.



MYTH

OT>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>RB

When will you retards give up this RB fascination.

Also Greene in the first areyoufrickingkiddingme?
Posted by STEALTH
Kansas
Member since Feb 2008
958 posts
Posted on 1/22/09 at 2:13 pm to
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MYTH

OT>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>RB

When will you retards give up this RB fascination.

Also Greene in the first areyoufrickingkiddingme?


Myth,Fail,ect... Your the biggest zero on this board. You think calling people a retard makes you smart. If you can't write or think on your own then refrain from the conversation. Get a life or better yet take your life and jump off a bridge you clown. Do you know what Peyton is going to do with his draft pick? No you dont so stop acting like you know anything about football, sports, or life in general. No one knows who the pick is going to be but its fun to speculate and discuss. If you disagree with my post then fine but to call me a retard with your lack of logic makes you look uneducated to say the least. Now go play somewhere else, boy.
Posted by SugarBeauxl
Chicago
Member since Nov 2008
1079 posts
Posted on 1/22/09 at 2:45 pm to
Saftey, Saftey, Saftey is what we need most.
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