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re: Kiper's mock
Posted on 1/22/09 at 4:58 pm to STEALTH
Posted on 1/22/09 at 4:58 pm to STEALTH
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Myth,Fail,ect... Your the biggest zero on this board.
LAWL
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You think calling people a retard makes you smart.
No me being smart makes me smart. Me calling you a retard is simply pointing this out to smart people and those who are trying to be smarrt.
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Do you know what Peyton is going to do with his draft pick? No you dont so stop acting like you know anything about football, sports, or life in general.
Guaranteed I know more about all of those than you do you mouthbreathing fricktard.
I don't know what Peyton will do with this pick, but I know what he should do? Which is listen to me.
I know what he won't do that is draft ShonnfrickingGreene with the 14th overall pick.
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If you disagree with my post then fine but to call me a retard with your lack of logic makes you look uneducated to say the least.
I don't need to bother with logic in these posts because the fact that OT is a more important position than RB should be obvious to everyone with an iota of football, which you obviously lack.
Now go talk about ShunnfrickingGreene being a first round pick on the Rant with the other retards.
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Posted on 1/22/09 at 5:17 pm to LSUtigahs28
I wish we had a 2nd rounder, go S/OL in first then pick up Alphonso Smith.
Posted on 1/22/09 at 5:34 pm to STEALTH
FWIW if Payton goes RB at 14, Ill take his stupid little visor and Ill cram it up Loomis' cramhole.
Posted on 1/22/09 at 6:26 pm to LSUtigahs28
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Guaranteed I know more about all of those than you do you mouthbreathing fricktard.
Don't take my word.
Posted on 1/22/09 at 6:30 pm to JJ27
If he's there, take REY REY!!!!
Posted on 1/22/09 at 6:56 pm to SugarBeauxl
corner?????????? first pick????????? i hope Mel is wrong 
Agree with me or disagree our defensive problems was the coaching and now we got the best coach. we have some talent. Gay had to learn the system he knows it now. Porter the rookie corner was kicking butt and taking names at the beggining of the season before he got hurt. David was coming alive every now and then just didnt have a safety to help. we need to get a safety in free agent market and we need to trade down the pick if we can get a decent linebacker or offensive lineman latter on. We need to not focus every draft pick on defense or we going to get burn. We have injury problems so we need to get good backups on offense to secure that our offense doesnt slip from first to worst. I think a backup for bush thomas is a key and hell the guy we get there might even start . And a good backup for Brees is a must. if want to be contenders we cant blow picks away and taking a corner first is just
Agree with me or disagree our defensive problems was the coaching and now we got the best coach. we have some talent. Gay had to learn the system he knows it now. Porter the rookie corner was kicking butt and taking names at the beggining of the season before he got hurt. David was coming alive every now and then just didnt have a safety to help. we need to get a safety in free agent market and we need to trade down the pick if we can get a decent linebacker or offensive lineman latter on. We need to not focus every draft pick on defense or we going to get burn. We have injury problems so we need to get good backups on offense to secure that our offense doesnt slip from first to worst. I think a backup for bush thomas is a key and hell the guy we get there might even start . And a good backup for Brees is a must. if want to be contenders we cant blow picks away and taking a corner first is just 
Posted on 1/22/09 at 7:00 pm to saintsalwaysnumber1
how is taking a CB fist blowing a pick?
did you watch ANY games this season?
did you watch ANY games this season?
Posted on 1/22/09 at 7:10 pm to TiegerTim
I have a hard time believing that Payton would pass on Harvin if he's available as in Kiper's Mock. Even though we clearly need defensive help, Payton couldn't resist that kind of offensive weapon. I could also see them going with Moreno. Ideally, they could trade down and pick up an immediate impact player on defense (as well as an additional draft pick or two). Safety is the obvious weakness, but they could use help at LB as well.
Posted on 1/22/09 at 8:15 pm to dnwsr
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I have a hard time believing that Payton would pass on Harvin if he's available as in Kiper's Mock.
Because Peyton totally couldn't keep himself from drafting offense last year.
I mean he loves drafting offense so much he moved up to take an offensive player..... er wait Ellis plays DT
Posted on 1/22/09 at 8:37 pm to LSUtigahs28
And who was available on offense last year that has the playmaking ability of Percy Harvin? Apparently the first two drafts (Bush and Meachem) don't count now that we drafted one defensive player in the first round. And he also found it necessary to trade up to take Pittman when we already had Bush, Mcallister, and Stecker. So why again would it be a surprise if he took Harvin?
Posted on 1/22/09 at 8:52 pm to dnwsr
Here's my rant post:
KIPER SUCKS
Really, they score mocks now and he's out of touch, a blast from the past. ESPN is grooming McShay to take the reigns from him.
As far as need, safety fo sho. NO safety is near #14 in value tho. William Moore's stock has gone down this week at Mobile probably more than any other player there. So, trade down is the call. Picking up a 2nd would make Delmas or Chung a nice possibility.
Let's see free agency first. There won't be a big splash but Sean Jones or Jermaine Phillips would not be out of the question as hole fillers.
KIPER SUCKS
Really, they score mocks now and he's out of touch, a blast from the past. ESPN is grooming McShay to take the reigns from him.
As far as need, safety fo sho. NO safety is near #14 in value tho. William Moore's stock has gone down this week at Mobile probably more than any other player there. So, trade down is the call. Picking up a 2nd would make Delmas or Chung a nice possibility.
Let's see free agency first. There won't be a big splash but Sean Jones or Jermaine Phillips would not be out of the question as hole fillers.
This post was edited on 1/23/09 at 7:53 am
Posted on 1/23/09 at 1:22 am to blueslover
Dr. 3,
Im trying to follow the logic here. So lets select a second tier CB and SS at #14 because we need one. Even though there is no one who will have an impact on our defense next year at these positions? That's why SS and CB are commodity positions because you dont get a chance every year to get a stud (.e.g. Marcus Trufant which is one of the Saints biggest blunders). LB's, again who will jump in and take a position in the middle? I dont see one? So you need defense but the imact players are not there so what do you do? Again I think you are going to get a shot at Wells, Morreno, or Greene. All of these guys could at least have an impact on your offense next year. Im just thinking in terms of quality players or best available instead of strictly on needs.
Im trying to follow the logic here. So lets select a second tier CB and SS at #14 because we need one. Even though there is no one who will have an impact on our defense next year at these positions? That's why SS and CB are commodity positions because you dont get a chance every year to get a stud (.e.g. Marcus Trufant which is one of the Saints biggest blunders). LB's, again who will jump in and take a position in the middle? I dont see one? So you need defense but the imact players are not there so what do you do? Again I think you are going to get a shot at Wells, Morreno, or Greene. All of these guys could at least have an impact on your offense next year. Im just thinking in terms of quality players or best available instead of strictly on needs.
This post was edited on 1/23/09 at 2:10 am
Posted on 1/23/09 at 1:39 am to LSUtigahs28
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No me being smart makes me smart. Me calling you a retard is simply pointing this out to smart people and those who are trying to be smarrt.
That's my point.
I'm really enjoying your post more and more arse clown. My God how long did you have to think about that sentence today. It's obvious, your not very bright or smarrt.
Posted on 1/23/09 at 1:52 am to LSUtigahs28
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Guaranteed I know more about all of those than you do you mouthbreathing fricktard.
You really are the scum of the rant board. quote:
I don't know what Peyton will do with this pick, but I know what he should do? Which is listen to me.
No one wants to listen to you on this board but Sean Peyton should?
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I know what he won't do that is draft ShonnfrickingGreene with the 14th overall pick.
I love the way you combine cuss words and names in every post. Its cute, it really is.
Posted on 1/23/09 at 3:08 am to dnwsr
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And who was available on offense last year that has the playmaking ability of Percy Harvin?
Chris Johnson
Donnie Avery
Desean Jackson
Felix Jones
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Apparently the first two drafts (Bush and Meachem) don't count now that we drafted one defensive player in the first round.
Don't try to pretend that there was any move besides taking Bush in 06. I'm far from a Bush apologist, but there was no way we pass him in that draft. Plus what defensive player would we have drafted there?
AJ Hawk? Thoroughly disappointing selection bordering on a bust.
Meachem? What defensive player should we have taken there? Are that hot and bothered to get Alan Branch(The next defensive player taken, which was in the second round.)
No the fact of the matter was that in both of those situations there was not a Defensive players worth picking. Even if we hadn't picked Bush and Meachem it would have been Vince and Olsen or something like that simply because those happened to be the best guys on the board.
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. And he also found it necessary to trade up to take Pittman
and now 2 season removed lets look at the RB spot.
Deuce isn't likely to be back. Bush can't carry the load. Stecker is 33.
Did you ever think that was a need pick? Not some weird fascination? That maybe Peyton saw a guy they graded out higher than the 4th and thought he was just a great value?
Trading around in the 4th-7th happens all of the time. To give you an idea of how often it happens. In the round where we took Pittman 20 of the 32 choices were traded around. 20 of 32
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So why again would it be a surprise if he took Harvin?
Because Harvin grades out as a low first round prospect and there are plenty of mid-late first round defensive prospects that will make more sense at 14.
For all the bitching about peyton drafting offensive players when you actually sit down and look at the pick without hindsight they aren't ridiculous. When the Saints felt they wanted a defensive player and could get their guy they moved up to draft him.
If you are picking in the late first and Harvin is the best guy on the board then you have to take him as we did with Meachem. However to insist that this means that Peyton will take a late 1st round guy at 14 is dumb.
Posted on 1/23/09 at 7:15 am to LSUtigahs28
KIPER SUCKS so bad I hate to see a thread with his name get this many posts, even if they are ranter posts. Maybe we need some more mocks.
Posted on 1/23/09 at 7:47 am to STEALTH
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That's why SS and CB are commodity positions because you dont get a chance every year to get a stud
SS?
SS is one of the easiest positions to fill in the NFL
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LB's, again who will jump in and take a position in the middle?
we have a MLB
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So you need defense but the imact players are not there
davis is good value for 14 (at this point in the process)
if you're thinking about beanie wells or percy harvin, you might as well trade down and pick derrick williams 10-2o picks later
Posted on 1/23/09 at 7:50 am to SugarBeauxl
Kiper is correct for a change: We need the best available CB at 14. 
Posted on 1/23/09 at 7:55 am to SlowFlowPro
i'd rather take a late round gamble on a big back like marlon lucky or pj hill than spend a 1st rounder on wells
Posted on 1/23/09 at 8:55 am to SlowFlowPro
Wells is ridiculously overrated. Late round RB is the way to go.
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