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re: Le’s be frank: Taysom Hill doesn’t bring much to the team

Posted on 5/9/20 at 3:24 pm to
Posted by OsTiger78
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Posted on 5/9/20 at 3:24 pm to
Huh??? Not sure if serious
Posted by Errerrerrwere
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Posted on 5/9/20 at 3:35 pm to
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but the threat to pass is the X factor.


Really?
Posted by Elleshoe
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Posted on 5/9/20 at 3:37 pm to
Dude... you’ve embarrassed yourself enough. He keeps roster spots open by being able to fill in anywhere. He’s your 3rd QB. He’s your 5-6 WR (for us maybe 3-4 really). 3-4th RB/FB. He’s the role of two special teams guys. He allows you to carry more guys on the team that can specialize
This post was edited on 5/9/20 at 3:38 pm
Posted by MLU
Member since Feb 2017
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Posted on 5/9/20 at 7:22 pm to
1) They refused to play the multi-role position that Hill played. Even though Kordell played it for a couple years, he eventually put his foot down. None of the played special teams gunner that I am aware.

2) He has a strong arm, but he has not demonstrated that he is a viable threat to complete passes on a consistent basis. Taysom is 6-13, 119 yards, 0 TDs and 1 Int and 3 years in has not shown he is capable of being accurate or having the mental processing to be considered a QB.
Posted by Scoob
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Posted on 5/9/20 at 9:09 pm to
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1) They refused to play the multi-role position that Hill played. Even though Kordell played it for a couple years, he eventually put his foot down. None of the played special teams gunner that I am aware.

... and thus, those teams were unable to use them in the way the Saints use Hill.

That style of play can be very effective, but the drawback is that the player would have a short playing career relative to QB, or even a true WR. Less overall money in the long run. It's exceedingly tough to find a guy capable of doing what he does, and willing to do it.
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2) He has a strong arm, but he has not demonstrated that he is a viable threat to complete passes on a consistent basis. Taysom is 6-13, 119 yards, 0 TDs and 1 Int and 3 years in has not shown he is capable of being accurate or having the mental processing to be considered a QB.
I'd say he has shown that he can be a legit QB. Not an NFL starting QB, that's something different.
Go back and look at that link, several of those throws (to Mike Thomas in particular) are QB throws. 20-30 yd ropes to guys in the middle of the field.

But no, Taysom is not going to be the starter here. If the next starter is on the roster, it's Jameis. Taysom is the guy that gives you the ability to run a college-like running QB offense, for several plays or a series a game. He's a talented enough athlete that you have to prepare for him as a TE in a route, and when you shift him over to QB he throws things into flux. You don't need a Brees passing ability, you need to throw off the defensive assignments in that role.

Go back and look at the LSU-Bama 9-6 game in 2011. Bama was totally prepped to shut Lee down, LSU was never going to move the ball with him that game. Throw JJ in, he's running and the occasional pass, and Saban's throwing a fit because his defense, great though it was, was bending. That's why LSU won that game.

I think they're wanting to groom Stevens to take over that role, and let somebody take Hill off their hands for a trade or compensatory pick.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 5/10/20 at 6:51 am to
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But no, Taysom is not going to be the starter here. If the next starter is on the roster


17 million
He’s in the building
Posted by Dennis4LSU
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 5/10/20 at 3:54 pm to
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And if you disagree; please tell us what he does bring that any other athletic player wouldn’t.

kinda like you don't bring much to this board...what a stupid post
Posted by Meateye
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 9:21 am to
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ETA CSB


Is it really that big of a deal to write fricking words? So obviously you're a Millennial which explains alot.

Well tell you what when Taysom starts week 1 next year (2021) remember this conversation jackass.
This post was edited on 5/11/20 at 9:30 am
Posted by TigerAlum93
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 9:24 am to
When you are only allowed a 53 man roster, and have a guy like Hill that can do so many different things, it makes you that much more valuable.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
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23249 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 1:38 pm to
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But no, Taysom is not going to be the starter here. If the next starter is on the roster



17 million
He’s in the building

He's considered a vital part of the current offense. He's a viable receiver and runner, he can play an entire series and not take a snap at QB. 7 TDs in limited appearances.

Jimmy Graham has a contract worth $16 mil, he's had 5 TDs in the last 2 years.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78957 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 9:42 am to
As good as Hill is, I don't think you pay him that money if you don't think he is going to be a QB going forward.

He isn't an every down skill position player and that a good amount of money. Top 10 RBs money.

Now are you getting pretty good value when you consider what we are paying him and what we are paying Winston? yeah
This post was edited on 5/12/20 at 9:43 am
Posted by geauxtigahs87
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
26672 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 6:50 pm to
This might be the dumbest fricking take I've ever seen on this board since its creation.
Posted by GeauxTigers0107
We Coming
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Posted on 5/12/20 at 7:33 pm to
Just stopped by to give you #330.


Three hundred and fkn thirty bro. Do better.
Posted by iliveinabox
in a box
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Posted on 5/13/20 at 8:53 pm to
This is a weird melt op, you're trying to discredit the guys overall talent because you don't want him to be the qb of the future..why
Posted by Putty
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Posted on 5/15/20 at 4:54 pm to
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Errerrerrwere


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Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 5/15/20 at 4:59 pm to
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Dude... you’ve embarrassed yourself enough.


Here, there, dude embarrasses himself Errerrerrwere
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 5/15/20 at 5:18 pm to
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As good as Hill is, I don't think you pay him that money if you don't think he is going to be a QB going forward.


That’s what I think, too. I was taken aback by that number. I think it only makes sense if 1) Brees has pretty much told Sean that this is it and 2) they are prepared to give Hill every opportunity to be QB1 in ‘21.

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He isn't an every down skill position player


No, but I think he’s gonna play a ton more than he has previously. I expect his role to be similar to what it was toward the end of last season and the Vikings playoff game. I think they made that pretty obvious when they didn’t draft a WR. I know we signed Sanders, but we lost Ginn, so the WR numbers will be the same as last year. Unless they anticipate Smith finally making a jump to be a reliable #3 or Butler becomes the 1st WR training camp hero to actually translate to the field in the regular season, Hill may be on the field more often than not.

On the other hand, how do you adequately groom a 31-year-old guy who’s only thrown 13 career passes when he’s taking reps at WR/TE/H-back/RB? I guess we’ll see.
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