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re: Saints sign RB PJ Hill

Posted on 4/28/09 at 1:52 am to
Posted by LSUtigahs28
Member since Sep 2008
14561 posts
Posted on 4/28/09 at 1:52 am to
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Underrated. Made Calvin Johnson


Obviously. Why else would he be in football heaven with Sean Glennon and Vidal Hazelton?
Posted by RelocatedPelican
Member since Dec 2008
1042 posts
Posted on 4/28/09 at 2:27 am to
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Are you calling Foster gold?
Hardly - its just an analogy. Saints take Arnoux instead of Freeman, a guy on no one's board instead of a guy that got some notice. Saints trade up for a punter, forgoing selecting a RB then invite an undrafted RB with lots of questions, to be nice about it, to camp.
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
73183 posts
Posted on 4/28/09 at 3:27 am to
i've seen some analysts call freeman the steal of day 2.
Posted by tigersnsaints
Kenner, LA
Member since Mar 2009
637 posts
Posted on 4/28/09 at 7:38 am to
i like the PJ Hill signing....very productive at Wisconsin and tough to keep off the field...he could possibly be that short yardage back we've been needing.....that Donaldson kid looks like a wrecking ball....good chance one of them beats out Lynell Hamilton...



Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471569 posts
Posted on 4/28/09 at 7:45 am to
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similar to brandon jacobs

he's not similar to brandon jacobs at all
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471569 posts
Posted on 4/28/09 at 7:46 am to
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very productive at Wisconsin

big 10

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and tough to keep off the field.

actually he left early b/c he was going to be easy to keep off the field with their young talent
Posted by Billy Mays
Member since Jan 2009
25816 posts
Posted on 4/28/09 at 8:07 am to
John Clay > PJ Hill

But Hill still averaged his highest YPC of his career last year.

It's a good pickup regardless.

Posted by tigersnsaints
Kenner, LA
Member since Mar 2009
637 posts
Posted on 4/28/09 at 8:18 am to
forgot he came out early....goddam..seems like he's been there forever...still think he's worth a looksee....he might be perfect for the short yardage situations but i do believe he's got about 75% chance of being cut...
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
Champs 03 07 09 11(fack) 19!!!
Member since Mar 2007
22118 posts
Posted on 4/28/09 at 8:19 am to
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It's a good pickup regardless.



Agreed. I think Bush, Thomas, and Hill as a pure short yardage back could work well.

At least it shows that the coaches understand the need we have in the backfield and may not be done yet trying to address it.

Makes passing on Beanie easier knowing that they basically gave GW the controls during the draft to bring guys in to run his system, but are still going to work on the backfield through FA and hopefully trades.
Posted by Suntiger
STG or BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
35945 posts
Posted on 4/28/09 at 8:59 am to
I like the Hill signing. I think he actually has a chance to make the team and get a few carries.
Posted by blueslover
deeper than deep south
Member since Sep 2007
22792 posts
Posted on 4/28/09 at 9:15 am to
scathing NY Daily News-

...the story right now continues to be Hill's fall from grace. The star running back who surprisingly left school a year early to pursue a professional football career has racked up two DUIs since he declared for the draft and exactly zero interest from any of the 32 NFL teams.

And apparently it's his former offensive line's fault, not his poor decision making skills or the DUIs, which certainly go hand-in-hand. In a New York Daily news story from last Tuesday, Hill was quoted saying: "Wisconsin struggled on our offensive line, but I made the most of every opportunity. I know I'll do that in the NFL."

Right, so having Joe Thomas (already an NFL Pro Bowler) your freshman year must have been a bad thing. Having the emergence of Gabe Carimi filling in for Thomas the last two seasons must have been a bad thing. Playing three seasons at a school known for having huge offensive lines must have been a bad thing.

Those five guys on the line are the only reason why Hill was once compared to Ron Dayne. They are the only reason why Hill, an injury prone baby, was able to stay healthy as long as he did. They are the only reason Hill even had a chance to be drafted in New York this past weekend. And unless I missed something, they had absolutely nothing to do with Hill getting two DUIs, the second of which involved him eluding police after getting pulled over.

So cheers to the 32 teams from the NFL for making the wise decision of not drafting a kid who once was full of promise, but is now in a downward spiral not only in his football life, but in his life in general.
Posted by tigerguy121
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2006
10695 posts
Posted on 4/28/09 at 10:50 am to
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very productive at Wisconsin



big 10


So you don't think Big 10 #'s are valid, you don't think Big 12 passing #'s are valid. Is that it or do you not trust Pac-10 sack totals either?

At some you are going to have to realize that good players can come from somewhere besides the SEC and ACC
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
Champs 03 07 09 11(fack) 19!!!
Member since Mar 2007
22118 posts
Posted on 4/28/09 at 10:54 am to
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scathing NY Daily News-



Yikes. That is some harsh shite. Maybe this guy isn't what we're looking for.

MICHAEL BUSH anyone!!!!!!
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471569 posts
Posted on 4/28/09 at 11:05 am to
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Makes passing on Beanie easier

they did try to trade up to pick him in the late 1st
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
Champs 03 07 09 11(fack) 19!!!
Member since Mar 2007
22118 posts
Posted on 4/28/09 at 11:06 am to
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they did try to trade up to pick him in the late 1st



Yeah I know, but we still passed on him at 14 knowing we might not be able to get back in to pick him later.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
177291 posts
Posted on 4/28/09 at 11:07 am to
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they did try to trade up to pick him in the late 1st



That would have been a travesty. I can't tell you how fricking pissed I would have been.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471569 posts
Posted on 4/28/09 at 11:12 am to
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So you don't think Big 10 #'s are valid

how many great RBs come from the big10?

there is, what, 1 guy tearing it up right now (barber)? barber wasn't even top 20 in yards last year

quote:

At some you are going to have to realize that good players can come from somewhere besides the SEC and ACC

there are 3 good/great RBs from C-USA (deangelo williams, chris johnson, and matt forte) and possibly 4 next year (kevin smith)
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
289785 posts
Posted on 4/28/09 at 11:18 am to
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Such a beast all the NFL teams agreed not to draft him because it would break the NFL.



did Foster get drafted?


Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471569 posts
Posted on 4/28/09 at 11:24 am to
to be fair, i don't think he's championing the foster signing either
Posted by LSUtigahs28
Member since Sep 2008
14561 posts
Posted on 4/28/09 at 11:31 am to
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did Foster get drafted?


quote:


Arian Foster is actually so good that the moment he sets foot on the field he shall be taken directly into football heaven to live alongside Jonathan Sullivan, Jarrett Lee, and Reggie Ball, among other greats


I'm obviously all over Foster's nuts.

I think one of them might make the team, but I doubt they make any contribution to the team.
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