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Posted on 1/6/25 at 4:25 pm to
Posted by msstate7
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Posted on 1/6/25 at 4:25 pm to
What makes Brady a better candidate than Moore?
Posted by BigBrod81
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Posted on 1/6/25 at 4:30 pm to
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What makes Brady a better candidate than Moore?


Brady is viewed as a better offensive mind amongst his coaching peers & appears to be more relatable to players. The second part matters at times of adversity which every team deals with at some point.
Posted by BilJ
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Posted on 1/6/25 at 4:35 pm to
Well better than a retread…I think this is similar to when we hired Allen though, a big dog and pony show until their man Glenn
Posted by msstate7
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Posted on 1/6/25 at 4:38 pm to
His coaching peers like who? I'd be very interested in that read.

For the record, I wouldn't hate either
Posted by GynoSandberg
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Posted on 1/6/25 at 4:39 pm to
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Brady is viewed as a better offensive mind amongst his coaching peers


Brady couldn’t even land another OC job after shitting the bed in Carolina

Moore hasn’t had trouble finding OC work. He’s only two months older than Brady and has a better resume

Don’t think anyone can speak on what players feel about these guys so I’ll refrain from attempting to judge that one
Posted by Hamma1122
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Posted on 1/6/25 at 4:44 pm to
Yikes
Posted by BigBrod81
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Posted on 1/6/25 at 5:02 pm to
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His coaching peers like who? I'd be very interested in that read.



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Brady came from the Sean Payton coaching tree and still runs a lot of the same concepts as the Saints. Philosophically, they both use a ton of motions and shifts and want to be balanced as far as quick game, 5-step concepts, screens, runs and play-action. Some offensive coordinators lean too far into one or two types of concepts but Brady effectively mixes up his play calling and I can always appreciate an offensive coordinator with a well-designed screen-game package.

“I actually thought he did a fine job as an offensive coordinator,” said Nate Tice, the co-host of The Athletic’s Football Podcast and former Raiders assistant coach. “He maybe could have varied up some things but they had a terrible offensive line and Darnold. I think last year’s stuff was more indicative of what he can do. He ran a lot of typical Payton concepts (especially choice) and understood his personnel.”




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A source with knowledge of the situation told Pro Football Network that Rhule let Brady go because he “had trouble getting their playmakers the ball consistently, and scheming them open from week to week became an ongoing challenge.” The source added that Brady is very smart but was given too much responsibility too soon.
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Posted on 1/6/25 at 5:10 pm to
I like it
Posted by BigBrod81
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Posted on 1/6/25 at 5:16 pm to
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Don’t think anyone can speak on what players feel about these guys so I’ll refrain from attempting to judge that one


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Then came Brady’s first Friday as offensive coordinator. He made a decision that’s still mentioned by his players as pivotal to the 2023 turnaround and remains integral to Buffalo’s offensive identity.

“I was trying to get it all together,” Brady told The Athletic last week. “But I wanted them to know that, even though our backs were against the wall at that point in the season, I really believed in the men in that room.”




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Thing is, Brady didn’t go into the meeting room that Friday. With plays installed throughout the practice week, Brady presented Allen with the rundown of available plays against the Jets. In front of a projection screen, Allen asked each position group which plays they liked in practice and which plays they didn’t.

What did they want him to call for an easy completion or to get a receiver an early touch? What did the offensive line want him to avoid? Where did the running backs think their best cutback opportunities would appear? How did Allen and his tight ends feel about attacking a specific alignment?

“Brady hands us all the plays we’ve worked on that week and says, ‘You guys can choose what you like,’” Bills right tackle Spencer Brown said. “It’s cool when you can say, ‘I want these runs called,’ and you’re damn well going to get them. You ask him for Crack Toss, and you get it. Then you have to go out there and make him right.”





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Brady giving his players ownership in the offense became a vital part of the Bills’ dynamic. His trust put a healthy onus on the players to defend their choices on game day. Brown noted how demoralizing it can be to receive a play script at the end of the week and see a call they know won’t work. So the offense strives to show Brady its gratitude for not being that way. 


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“I don’t want them to feel, like, ‘Oh, man, if I tell Coach Brady I don’t like this play, what’s that going to mean?’ I want them to know I feel completely OK with crossing a play off the call sheet. If they don’t fully believe it’s going to work, it’s not worth calling. We got more plays than we need.”

Brady acknowledged his presence could muddy up their process and possibly sabotage the whole intent.

“We’re in a prideful business,” Brady said. “Nobody wants to look bad, and a natural inclination from us as coaches might be to defend why we like our plays.”




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“We’re a lot more comfortable,” McGovern said. “Brady placed a huge emphasis on communication. There were times last year when maybe the five of us O-linemen might be on the same page, but Jimmy (Cook) or the tight end might see something different. We might be running mid-zone to the right, and the tight end’s footwork might be for inside zone.

“Now, when we do run installs, everyone’s together, so they know where the mike point is, where Jimmy’s thinking about a cutback point maybe or how he’s going to read it. That’s a big difference from last year.”




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Brady has enhanced his tactics as his experience has deepened. The Bills’ talented roster also helps.

“He gives us a voice,” Shakir said. “Obviously, there’s certain things that can’t be done, but from the moment Joe took over, he was just, like, ‘Let’s talk it out.’

“It used to be we would sit there and go over plays, but with Joe we can ask ‘Why?’ Joe will — boom — explain why we’re doing it that way. Then we go rep it in practice. He makes us feel like it’s our offense.”




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“Those are the cool things,” Brady said. “When they tell you it’s going to work, then why would I call anything different?

And why call anything different when the other team can’t stop what you’re running?

At his locker stall last week, Brown laughed at Brady’s willingness to run the same play over and again. That attitude only adds to the mutual trust, especially among the offensive linemen.

“During that Eagles game, I think it was in the fourth quarter, we ran the same play five times in a row,” Brown said. “I thought, ‘This is like some frickin’ high school, run-it-down-your-throat s—.’ The same thing in the Steelers playoff game, running out the clock in our four-minute offense.

“It’s belief in the players he has: ‘I don’t give a damn who’s across the line. We know we’re running it. They know we’re running it. The defense isn’t dumb. Everybody knows the play. Just run it again.’ It’s showing faith in his guys to execute well, and we believe in him.”




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Whether familiar or new, Brady intends to let his players’ voices guide the way.

“It’s not my call sheet; it’s theirs,” Brady said. “They’re the ones who will make it work.

“It’s not me trying to sell a play. It’s me saying, ‘Here you go. This is what you guys wanted, and we’re going to make it work.’”




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Posted by GynoSandberg
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Posted on 1/6/25 at 5:38 pm to
Reads like he’s a players coach who appreciates input from his players.. Don’t doubt that. Also works better in Buffalo than Carolina, and we are closer to Carolina

I’m more interested in leadership qualities that lend to running a program. You have to consider working lockstep with the FO, being the boss of the other coaches, commanding the room of the 100 guys on the team

And Brady may very well be all that too. Doesn’t come across that way but it’s hard to gauge with any coordinators
Posted by Chalkywhite84
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Posted on 1/6/25 at 5:53 pm to
Also Anthony weaver and Mike Kafka
Posted by BigBrod81
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Posted on 1/6/25 at 6:17 pm to
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I’m more interested in leadership qualities that lend to running a program. 


He's had two solid HC to observe in how to handle running a program in Payton & McDermott.

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working lockstep with the FO


Will be a challenge for any hire in terms of trying to be on the same page with Loomis.
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Posted on 1/6/25 at 6:19 pm to
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