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Posted on 4/30/15 at 3:56 pm to
Posted by Midget Death Squad
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Posted on 4/30/15 at 3:56 pm to
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IF he is innocent and I were him, I would sue the NFL for every dollar I would have made as a top 15 pick.



and he will lose. drafting is strictly a team's preference, it is not a right for a player to be drafted at a certain position. Now if he were to sue the BRPD for leaking this info, that's a different apple that can be bit
Posted by adono
River Ridge
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 4/30/15 at 3:57 pm to
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BRPD has lost control of La'el Collins.


Only a fool would actually believe this; the cops haven't lost anything. Many have followed that path and it's lead to Angola.
Posted by Mr. Wayne
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 4/30/15 at 4:00 pm to
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and he will lose. drafting is strictly a team's preference, it is not a right for a player to be drafted at a certain position.


Hey, if OJ can get away with murder...

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Now if he were to sue the BRPD for leaking this info, that's a different apple that can be bit


And Adam Schefter. For tweeting like an a-hole.
Posted by OchoDedos
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Posted on 4/30/15 at 4:01 pm to
If He lasts until the 5th or 6th round then go for it.
Posted by flash0325
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Posted on 4/30/15 at 4:04 pm to
Summary of what I have been told (let's see how it turns out):

1. Saints goal is to draft 7 players
2. Saints are close to an agreement in principle to trade up w the Bears if Beasley is there (not giving up 31 unless swapped w 39)
3. Working on trading down from 31
4. Lael Collins will be drafted & by the Saints if he is not taken= trying to clarify when now
Posted by SouljaBreauxTellEm
Mizz
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 4/30/15 at 4:04 pm to
I would love to see the Saints draft Collins. Especially at a bargain.
Posted by Midget Death Squad
Meme Magic
Member since Oct 2008
28397 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 4:09 pm to
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And Adam Schefter. For tweeting like an a-hole.



reporters report what's given to them. lay off, bra. you're fighting the wrong battle
Posted by adono
River Ridge
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Posted on 4/30/15 at 4:09 pm to
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Summary of what I have been told (let's see how it turns out):

1. Saints goal is to draft 7 players
2. Saints are close to an agreement in principle to trade up w the Bears if Beasley is there (not giving up 31 unless swapped w 39)
3. Working on trading down from 31
4. Lael Collins will be drafted & by the Saints if he is not taken= trying to clarify when now



I'll admit that I've been off the board for a few hours, but what happened to the "Collins at #31"?
Posted by Midget Death Squad
Meme Magic
Member since Oct 2008
28397 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 4:11 pm to
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1. Saints goal is to draft 7 players
2. Saints are close to an agreement in principle to trade up w the Bears if Beasley is there (not giving up 31 unless swapped w 39)
3. Working on trading down from 31
4. Lael Collins will be drafted & by the Saints if he is not taken= trying to clarify when now


1. Why the hell do they only want 7? I don't get this

2. I'm not on board with this. So dumb when he or another valuable player will be there. But as long as it's not for our other first, I can swallow that pill a little easier

3. Exactly what they need to do.

4. I don't like this given the circumstances. I surely hope he is innocent if this happens
Posted by THRILLHO
Metry, LA
Member since Apr 2006
50329 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 4:11 pm to
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3. Working on trading down from 31



If true, the Bucs want to get into that range using 33. The extra 5th year team option is kind of a big thing to let go of, though.
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 4/30/15 at 4:13 pm to
I'd give up our 31 and a third rounder to a team that has an early 2nd and give us their 16 1st
Posted by THRILLHO
Metry, LA
Member since Apr 2006
50329 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 4:13 pm to
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1. Why the hell do they only want 7? I don't get this



Unlikely that 7 rookies make the team, much less 9. Plus we're great at finding UDFAs.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 4/30/15 at 4:15 pm to
seven rhymes with heaven
Posted by HollierThanThou
Member since Jan 2012
6270 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 4:15 pm to
If collins makes it to the third, i just don't know how i would let him slide by even if it is a potential drama filled PR hit.

If he's proven innocent you're talking about an anchor on your o-line taken in the middle rounds. Teams aren't going to pass that up for some other coin flip pick. It just make more sense to play for the big payoff with Collins.
Posted by adono
River Ridge
Member since Sep 2003
7307 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 4:16 pm to
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1. Saints goal is to draft 7 players


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3. Working on trading down from 31


These don't match. You trade down to get more picks; we already have 9 (which you say we won't use).
So, how many picks do we give up to move up (according to your source)?
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 4/30/15 at 4:16 pm to
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If collins makes it to the third, i just don't know how i would let him slide by even if it is a potential drama filled PR hit.


i can see a possible arguement had you say 5th. 4th and higher, can't risk that PR nightmare.
Posted by adono
River Ridge
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 4/30/15 at 4:18 pm to
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If he's proven innocent you're talking about an anchor on your o-line taken in the middle rounds.


What if he isn't?

Answer: Someone loses his job.
Posted by THRILLHO
Metry, LA
Member since Apr 2006
50329 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 4:19 pm to
They could do something like swapping 31 and 78 for 33 and 65. Seems somewhat reasonable, though I would prefer keep 31 in the event that the player drafted ends up being good and we want the 5th year option. 15 of 2012's first rounders had their option years picked up this offseason.
Posted by adono
River Ridge
Member since Sep 2003
7307 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 4:22 pm to
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I'd give up our 31 and a third rounder to a team that has an early 2nd and give us their 16 1st


Now, that's a Belichick move. That's the type of move that builds continuity.
This post was edited on 4/30/15 at 4:29 pm
Posted by adono
River Ridge
Member since Sep 2003
7307 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 4:26 pm to
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They could do something like swapping 31 and 78 for 33 and 65.


That doesn't answer my question. He said we weren't keeping all 9 picks and then said we were trading down. If we're trading down, I assume it's for more picks.
We already have #31 and #78.
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