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Posted on 1/5/26 at 11:37 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/5/26 at 11:37 am to
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Our fan base is really brainwashed into thinking we can only get good OL in the first round of drafts.


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Guess we better get used to Audric Estime and Ronnie Bell after all huh?


So you are upset that people want OL in the 1st and want...a running back instead?

Posted by Proximo
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Posted on 1/5/26 at 11:40 am to
selecting a running back at 8 overall would be malpractice. Look at what the Raiders did last year

The path to a great oline is much murkier if we wait until the 2nd or 3rd to select a guard and then we're still stuck with Fuaga who hasn't been overly impressive at OT
Posted by WicKed WayZ
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Posted on 1/5/26 at 11:40 am to
Doesn’t have to be a RB. Could be an Edge. Could be Downs. Not ruling out Love and think he’d be great for the offense. Healthy OL with McCoy back and a FA guard signing like Teller or David Edwards and yeah…I could get behind putting Love behind that vs drafting Fano, sticking Fuaga at Guard and hoping 5th round Demond Claiborne can beat out Audric Estime and Devin Neal

You really got me
Posted by Proximo
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Posted on 1/5/26 at 11:43 am to
If we can steal Teller from the Browns for $10/year for 3 years, I will be a lot more confident in the line and I think gives us flexibility to get the edge this year.
Posted by WicKed WayZ
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Posted on 1/5/26 at 11:45 am to
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selecting a running back at 8 overall would be malpractice. Look at what the Raiders did last year


They did that BEFORE they had an answer at QB. I wouldn’t say very many of the first round RBs taken lately have been busts…at all. Jeanty still had 1400 scrimmage yards as well. Not a great argument


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The path to a great oline is much murkier if we wait until the 2nd or 3rd to select a guard and then we're still stuck with Fuaga who hasn't been overly impressive at OT


He was playing very well once he got healthy. Shame this idiotic point is being parroted around. This fan base really expects Fuaga to seamlessly transition inside, Fano to hit at 8 and all the OL problems to be solved? I feel like that’s a murkier proposition than just selecting a Guard to compete with Ruiz. Plenty of good OL can be had other than just around 1.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/5/26 at 11:51 am to
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The path to a great oline is much murkier if we wait until the 2nd or 3rd to select a guard and then we're still stuck with Fuaga who hasn't been overly impressive at OT

Yeah I'm not married to the plan, but if a quality RT option is at/close to BPA it would make sense. 100x more sense than a RB

We need help all over and should have options at DI, edge, CB, and if we're lucky, S (Downs) in addition to RT
Posted by WicKed WayZ
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Posted on 1/5/26 at 11:51 am to
Look even if you don’t think Fuaga will be an elite tackle…that still doesn’t mean you bump him inside and change his position again if he’s only an above average tackle, which once he was healthy, he was this year.

Not every single one of your OL will be elite. Those days are fricking over. Look at the once great Eagles OL. Regressed heavily. There’s not many great OLines period around the NFL anymore. Ever since Dallas hit on a bunch of OL back when they had Dak and Zeke our fan base has become absolutely obsessed with recreating that and it’s failed miserably. There’s multiple paths to getting an above average OL. Maybe I’m just different in how I want to team build. I don’t think it matters much if you have a great OL if you have Vele as your #2 and Devin Neal/Audric Estime running the ball. I’d rather an above average but not elite OL if that meant we could have actual playmakers for our young QB. He can stand in the pocket all day long with a great OL but if we don’t have anyone that can get open, what’s the fricking point ya know?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/5/26 at 11:52 am to
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This fan base really expects Fuaga to seamlessly transition inside, Fano to hit at 8 and all the OL problems to be solved?


We are still rebuilding. The point is to have the OL gelled for 2027 or 2028.

We still have a few more years of the rebuild (why a RB makes no sense early)
Posted by WicKed WayZ
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Posted on 1/5/26 at 11:53 am to
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100x more sense than a RB



You’ve always been a RB hater and often used the Eagles as an example of teams who go cheap there and have success. That all kind of fell apart after the whole Swift thing didn’t work and they spent a frick load of money on Saquon Barkley huh?
Posted by WicKed WayZ
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Posted on 1/5/26 at 11:54 am to
Team needs playmakers SFP. Immediate impact players. You don’t agree? You don’t think Love would come in and make an impact for the Saints?
Posted by Proximo
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Posted on 1/5/26 at 12:03 pm to
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spent a frick load of money on Saquon Barkley huh?

this is the key to why it isn't worth it to pick Love, the frickload of money on an elite RB cost the Giants like $12mm? per year.

Being in position to select at an edge / possibly OT on the rookie wage scale is the smart move for the future health of the cap when we have to re-sign that player in 4 years
Posted by WicKed WayZ
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Posted on 1/5/26 at 12:06 pm to
The Chiefs will take Love and everyone will announce it as a glorious selection and a perfect fit despite their roster quality going downhill the last two seasons.

But god forbid the Saints take anything other than OL and DL
Posted by Proximo
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Posted on 1/5/26 at 12:08 pm to
I just think it's way more likely to find a really good RB in round 2 or 3 than the edge or tackle
Posted by WicKed WayZ
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Posted on 1/5/26 at 12:16 pm to
Maybe any other year. This is one of the weakest RB draft classes in years. I’m also of the belief a really good RB is becoming more and more valuable than it has been in the past because of how the league is changing. But I could be alone in that, which is why I view Love as highly as I do Bain, Bailey, Downs. I would take all 3 of them over Love.

But if you’re giving me a choice between Tyson, Love and Fano, I’m going Love. I want playmakers, not other Tackle that could be a Guard
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/5/26 at 12:17 pm to
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and often used the Eagles as an example of teams who go cheap there and have success. That all kind of fell apart after the whole Swift thing didn’t work and they spent a frick load of money on Saquon Barkley huh?


How did Saquon do this year when their OL wasn't elite?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/5/26 at 12:20 pm to
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The Chiefs will take Love and everyone will announce it as a glorious selection and a perfect fit despite their roster quality going downhill the last two seasons.

They have a title-contending roster. We don't.
Posted by WicKed WayZ
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Posted on 1/5/26 at 12:22 pm to
Almost 1200 yards and 8 TDs…
Posted by Proximo
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Posted on 1/5/26 at 12:28 pm to
I would rather pay Hall or Etienne $10mm per year, I think that is a better fit for our long term cap

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spotrac puts Etienne at a $7mm/yr projection
This post was edited on 1/5/26 at 12:31 pm
Posted by WicKed WayZ
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Posted on 1/5/26 at 12:31 pm to
Now you’re REALLY going to piss of SFP
Posted by lionward2014
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Posted on 1/5/26 at 12:41 pm to
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Team needs playmakers SFP. Immediate impact players. You don’t agree? You don’t think Love would come in and make an impact for the Saints?


I'm split on this. We need to sure up our line 100% but we also need playmakers. A great line with no weapons doesn't do a whole lot. Love is going to be better than Barkley, and Moore clearly knows how to use a back like that, but it's hard to justify a RB at #8.

I don't think comparing him to Jeanty is fair though. The Raiders were way more of a shite show on offense than we are, which says a lot, and Love is way more well rounded than Jeanty.

I would like Bain, Downs, or Delane more at the #8 pick but we need to spend some higher in draft capital on playmakers and not fall into the trap of "we can find hidden gems late in the draft" because that's how we run out Marquez Calloway and Lil'Jordan Humphries as our WR's.
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