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re: Abilene, Texas shooting video
Posted on 9/20/18 at 3:08 pm to ninthward
Posted on 9/20/18 at 3:08 pm to ninthward
Here's a quote from the dead man's wife/baby mama/gf/whatever
If that is true then all bets are off for old man and dipshit....I'd love to see the police report on this one.
quote:
As tempers flare, Box steps in between her husband and John Miller. Howard’s brother has handed him a baseball bat by this time, but he never swung it, his wife said.
If that is true then all bets are off for old man and dipshit....I'd love to see the police report on this one.
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Posted on 9/20/18 at 3:25 pm to ninthward
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Yes, you leave. If you have the gun, you leave that is if you dont want to commit murder. *inside your home is a different story. Then an intruder should be shot.
You are incorrect. There is no duty to retreat on public property in Texas. As long as you are legally allowed to be there (not trespassing on private property) you are good to 'stand your ground'.
It's going to get sticky because you also can't provoke your attacker. This is where the lawyers are going to focus.
LINK ]Texas Penal Code - PENAL § 9.31. Self-Defense
(e) A person who has a right to be present at the location where the force is used, who has not provoked the person against whom the force is used, and who is not engaged in criminal activity at the time the force is used is not required to retreat before using force as described by this section.
Posted on 9/20/18 at 3:27 pm to Smeg
Those boys are going to prison. But the dead dude was an idiot for confronting two people who are openly armed.
Posted on 9/20/18 at 3:28 pm to Smeg
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who has not provoked the person against whom the force is used, and who is not engaged in criminal activity at the time the force
welp, they might be fricked
they definitely provoked the guy and they were also illegally dumping trash on public property
This post was edited on 9/20/18 at 3:29 pm
Posted on 9/20/18 at 3:30 pm to Ronaldo Burgundiaz
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Hmm, can you use deadly force if someone throws a bat at you?
I would say yes under many circumstances. In this case, though, it seems orange shirt threw the bat after being shot once or twice. At least you see fatty dad duck to his left after firing some rounds. The shooter can't claim self-defense at that point, IMO.
Posted on 9/20/18 at 3:37 pm to ninthward
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When were they attacked with the bat?
Right at the 2:10 mark. You can see fatty dad duck left and the bat glances off of him, goes b/w him and fatty son and is visible in the dirt behind son at 2:13.
Posted on 9/20/18 at 3:38 pm to Smeg
I hope the deceased man’s kids grow up and murder the fatasses.
Posted on 9/20/18 at 3:45 pm to Eli Goldfinger
Pride and anger cost the man in orange his life.
Posted on 9/20/18 at 3:49 pm to Smeg
Completely trash all the way in that situation.
Posted on 9/20/18 at 4:10 pm to tiggerthetooth
Baw in orange wouldn't have been killed by the old man's Saturday Night Special but the son blasting him in the head with the shotgun did him in.
Posted on 9/20/18 at 4:18 pm to The Boat
Apparently the man in orange has severe mental illness and a history of threatening behaviors...
Posted on 9/20/18 at 4:37 pm to LSU316
quote:Which is comical because he is the one who showed up with a gun.
It seemed to me that the guy with the gun told the dude that he was going to shoot him if he didn't leave him alone.
Posted on 9/20/18 at 4:43 pm to shspanthers
quote:LOL, after he shot him or at him.
Right at the 2:10 mark. You can see fatty dad duck left and the bat glances off of him, goes b/w him and fatty son and is visible in the dirt behind son at 2:13.
Posted on 9/20/18 at 4:45 pm to Ronaldo Burgundiaz
I mean, the father and son were standing their ground. They never raised their guns or stepped towards the man in the orange... until he started towards them with a bat. The old man told the guy in the orange exactly what was going to happen if he came within 3 feet of him. I think the old man is free and clear, not sure about the son.
Posted on 9/20/18 at 4:52 pm to Smeg
Don't know or care who is right here. It just boggles my mind the dumb shite that people are willing to kill/be killed over. Like was that really with getting blasted over? And is it really worth going to prison over? Holy shite. There is very little that would possibly make me pull my gun on my neighbor. And if he pulls one and gets the jump on me, you can bet your arse I'm not gonna stand there and fricking threaten him and argue.
This post was edited on 9/20/18 at 5:05 pm
Posted on 9/20/18 at 4:54 pm to Smeg
'Mericuh!! 
Posted on 9/20/18 at 4:58 pm to Cdawg
Awful for wife. But guns out...I am telling both those trashy counts that they win.
Posted on 9/20/18 at 5:00 pm to PawnMaster
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I mean, the father and son were standing their ground. They never raised their guns or stepped towards the man in the orange... until he started towards them with a bat. The old man told the guy in the orange exactly what was going to happen if he came within 3 feet of him. I think the old man is free and clear, not sure about the son.
Eh you can't really be standing your ground if you are provoking, The old guy was repeating "come on" and other taunts etc. Thats why he is no longer only "standing his ground". Everyone involved in this video and is in the wrong. If he did not taunt orange shirt, then I would consider that he was just standing his ground.
Orange shirt definitely darwin'd it up by bringing a bat to a gun fight.
Posted on 9/20/18 at 5:00 pm to fr33manator
Fat boy is going to jail. He was not in danger and fired his weapon after the other 'tard fired his. This was not self defense on his part. He will do time, particularly if his shot was the fatal shot. I don't know about the other guy, because the video got bad seconds before shots are heard.
Posted on 9/20/18 at 5:02 pm to PiscesTiger
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Awful for wife. But guns out...I am telling both those trashy counts that they win.
this. why on earth did she think she could tell 2 people with guns that they will not shoot her husband, (who is getting a bat to escalate the situation) instead of telling her husband that this game is over and its time to leave.
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