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Posted on 9/26/14 at 8:25 am to
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 9/26/14 at 8:25 am to
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hey i quit cigarettes cold turkey, which are the most physically addicting things on earth


I hope you're joking!

Posted by Artie Rome
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Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 9/26/14 at 8:27 am to
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hey i quit cigarettes cold turkey, which are the most physically addicting things on earth


Let's see you quit TD...tough guy.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/26/14 at 8:28 am to
well the part about them being the most addictive is true

i do deal with some sort of addicts on most days through work and my bro had drug problems

as long as we're not talking about severe psychological issues (like molestation, death, etc) the biggest issue is social pressure/habit

you just have to get over the initial hump of physical addiction and then get away from the social pressure
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 9/26/14 at 8:29 am to
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hey i quit cigarettes cold turkey, which are the most physically addicting things on earth



That is certainly bull shite
Posted by CQQ
Member since Feb 2006
17048 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 8:30 am to
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I could kick his arse.


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maybe you should've done that in the first place and you wouldn't be in this situation......just saying


Quote possibly the dumbest fricking thing I've read on this forum in 8 years.
Posted by Artie Rome
Hwy 1
Member since Jul 2014
8757 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 8:30 am to
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I have a buddy who works at St. Christopher's. Their facilites in capital heights are probably the nicest I've ever been in.


Just looked it up. I didn't even know they had that place. I was only aware of the one on Cora...which is, well, not so nice. Is Dr. Cataldie running that one as well? He's a good man.

Let's open a treatment center.
Posted by Artie Rome
Hwy 1
Member since Jul 2014
8757 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 8:33 am to
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well the part about them being the most addictive is true


No.

quote:

as long as we're not talking about severe psychological issues (like molestation, death, etc) the biggest issue is social pressure/habit

you just have to get over the initial hump of physical addiction and then get away from the social pressure


Sorry buddy. But I am just going to have to ignore anything else you post on this topic. You might know a lot about a lot...but you know very little about this topic.

ETA: Wait. Are you saying that in reference to cigarettes? If so then carry on.
This post was edited on 9/26/14 at 8:35 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471824 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 8:35 am to
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Sorry buddy. But I am just going to have to ignore anything else you post on this topic. You might know a lot about a lot...but you know very little about this topic.

do you believe in the 12 step program? because if you think that's the only way to treat addiction, i will say the same about you
Posted by BACONisMEATcandy
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 9/26/14 at 8:36 am to
Best of luck. I would look into teen challenge.

LINK
Posted by Artie Rome
Hwy 1
Member since Jul 2014
8757 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 8:37 am to
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do you believe in the 12 step program?


Absolutely.

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because if you think that's the only way to treat addiction


No. But I believe in 12 step programs.

See my edit above. If you were just talking about cigarettes then I have no issue with your statement.
Posted by pwejr88
Red Stick
Member since Apr 2007
37768 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 8:40 am to
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Palmetto, bring him up here. They will clean him up.



That place works miracles.

It has a 90% sobriety rate for professionals requiring a license to practice. Its success rate is just as good for the common folk but no way to keep track of it as well.
Posted by chalupa
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 9/26/14 at 8:41 am to
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This post was edited on 4/14/20 at 10:19 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471824 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 8:43 am to
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If you were just talking about cigarettes then I have no issue with your statement.

i'm not

the 12 step program isn't really that effective (it's success rates are essentially equal with no treatment Data in here)

here is a Salon Article about AA

quote:

Peer-reviewed studies peg the success rate of AA somewhere between 5 and 10 percent. That is, about one of every fifteen people who enter these programs is able to become and stay sober. In 2006, one of the most prestigious scientific research organizations in the world, the Cochrane Collaboration, conducted a review of the many studies conducted between 1966 and 2005 and reached a stunning conclusion: “No experimental studies unequivocally demonstrated the effectiveness of AA” in treating alcoholism. This group reached the same conclusion about professional AA-oriented treatment (12-step facilitation therapy, or TSF), which is the core of virtually every alcoholism-rehabilitation program in the country.



as for cigs:

Nicotine most addictive substance

from the website for a rehab place, lol

there are other references for that claim. i didn't just make it up. nicotine is addictive as frick. the social acceptance of smoking makes real habits form, and unless your entire peer group quits, you'll have social pressure to smoke
Posted by Artie Rome
Hwy 1
Member since Jul 2014
8757 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 8:44 am to
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The right step off of Florida and Cora I think. I think they changed the name though to St Christians or something like that. They have 45 or 90 inpatient.


St. Christopher's.
Posted by madamsquirrel
The big somewhere out there
Member since Jul 2009
55794 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 8:46 am to
Read this thread=rehab banner ad now
Posted by Ash Williams
South of i-10
Member since May 2009
18559 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 8:46 am to
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Palmetto, bring him up here. They will clean him up.


This. I've had family attend and it really helped them out
Posted by pwejr88
Red Stick
Member since Apr 2007
37768 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 8:46 am to
There are way too many factors for your stats to be completely accurate. For starters the "reason" one chooses AA will determine off the bat if he chooses a better life or not. For example:

Joins AA on the request of a family member - will never work
Joins AA because it's court-ordered - will never work
Joins AA because the person wants a better life - works the majority of the time

Same can be applied to treatment centers.
Posted by Artie Rome
Hwy 1
Member since Jul 2014
8757 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 8:47 am to
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the 12 step program isn't really that effective (it's success rates are essentially equal with no treatment


It is working for me and millions of others. You cannot argue with that.

ETA: I was not going to get in to the common flaws with all of those studies because it simply does not matter. I have seen the program work for those that are willing.
This post was edited on 9/26/14 at 8:49 am
Posted by aVatiger
Water
Member since Jan 2006
27967 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 8:50 am to
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does he actually want to get help for his drug problem?
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if not, you and him are wasting your time


Fixed.

Hope it works out




shiiittttt
Posted by crimsonsaint
Member since Nov 2009
37795 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 8:50 am to
Palmetto is Rayville is supposed to be top notch.
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