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re: Aircraft down in GOM (Dec 29, 2022)
Posted on 12/30/22 at 10:53 pm to lostinbr
Posted on 12/30/22 at 10:53 pm to lostinbr
How often do you baws still even rope swing? I remember back when I did my HUET and it had the rope swing part thinking there are definitely some in this group that aren’t making it if we actually ever had to do this
Some big ole boy couldn’t even support himself with the rope and they just passed him along anyways
Also the man basket ain’t bad at all. There’s nothing to it. It looks super sketchy but just hold on tight and you’ll be fine. In Canada they make us use the frog (not sure if that’s actually name for it or not) which actually straps you in but seems like over kill. Basically the same idea though
Some big ole boy couldn’t even support himself with the rope and they just passed him along anyways
Also the man basket ain’t bad at all. There’s nothing to it. It looks super sketchy but just hold on tight and you’ll be fine. In Canada they make us use the frog (not sure if that’s actually name for it or not) which actually straps you in but seems like over kill. Basically the same idea though
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Posted on 12/30/22 at 11:07 pm to Pelican fan99
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How often do you baws still even rope swing?
Like I said before, I’ve been out of the Gulf for years now. But here’s how it was when I left:
Most people working a rotation somewhere never use a swing rope. But the few folks who do use them (shelf fields with satellites and limited helicopter resources) do it all the time.
Then you have people who work for service companies, where you might spend a week running around a field on boats swinging around like Tarzan, then go a year without seeing a swing rope.
Posted on 12/30/22 at 11:22 pm to Pelican fan99
I’m out of the Gulf thankfully, but I’ve never actually done it. Was all helicopters and man baskets. When I worked for a very large blue colored oilfield service company, they didn’t allow swing ropes or night time man basket lifts. They wanted you to make everybody wait until morning.
My offshore jobs were pretty much always short, so my personal favorite was when they’d fly you out from Venice or somewhere like that then send you back on a boat to Fourchon and drop you off at some random dock at 2 am.
My offshore jobs were pretty much always short, so my personal favorite was when they’d fly you out from Venice or somewhere like that then send you back on a boat to Fourchon and drop you off at some random dock at 2 am.
Posted on 12/31/22 at 9:03 am to 3deadtrolls
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My offshore jobs were pretty much always short, so my personal favorite was when they’d fly you out from Venice or somewhere like that then send you back on a boat to Fourchon and drop you off at some random dock at 2 am.
That happened to me often. I flew out of Patterson and was boated back in to Venice.
Posted on 12/31/22 at 9:54 am to lostinbr
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lostinbr
Thank you sir...
Swing rope. What could happen?
Posted on 12/31/22 at 10:07 am to WWII Collector
Did any newbie ever get sent out and have to use that swing rope? What happened if yo I got out there and said oh hell no.
I’m female — I can’t imagine having to do that. I learned a lot by reading here after SEACOR accident and am so grateful for the guys (and a few gals I guess) who work in oil and gas out there.
My grandma father did it in the 60s/70s before he had heart attack and had to retire … I need to ask my dad what he knows about how he got to and from.
I’m female — I can’t imagine having to do that. I learned a lot by reading here after SEACOR accident and am so grateful for the guys (and a few gals I guess) who work in oil and gas out there.
My grandma father did it in the 60s/70s before he had heart attack and had to retire … I need to ask my dad what he knows about how he got to and from.
Posted on 12/31/22 at 10:37 am to tiger91
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Did any newbie ever get sent out and have to use that swing rope?
My first trip offshore was to MP41, Chevron. Crew boat from Venice then transfer to the main structure in a basket. Once at the main structure, we checked in, did orientation, etc. then went back to the boats. Everyone rode the boats in the field to the satellites and transferred via swing rope.
So yeah.. literally my first trip offshore I had to use swing ropes.
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What happened if yo I got out there and said oh hell no.
I imagine you wouldn’t be employed very long, unless you could make a legit argument about unsafe conditions (e.g. weather). If you physically can’t do it, then you aren’t “fit for duty.”
Like anything else, it probably depends on the company and how valuable the employee is. But you can imagine that the operator who owns the platform is not going to be pleased if a service company sends out a tech/engineer/etc. who can’t even board the platform where they are supposed to work.
Posted on 12/31/22 at 10:41 am to tiger91
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Did any newbie ever get sent out and have to use that swing rope?
Yep. They sent me to load the groceries to be brought on the platform.
Posted on 12/31/22 at 10:51 am to tiger91
We had a story about a new galley hand who took one look at the swing rope and said “no way…I quit’. The crew didn’t understand why he reacted that way since he looked very capable of making the short swing. One of the other guys swung over and the new galley hand breathed a sigh of relief. He was first one up and thought he had to rope climb (like gym class) all the way up to the production deck. It’s funny now but I may have thought the same thing my first time
Posted on 12/31/22 at 10:51 am to Pelican fan99
I worked in the GOM for 35 years. Started in slickline and we moved around a lot. Back then attitudes toward safety were a little more Darwinian. No formal training, just watch and do. I found personell baskets pretty easy. Jump on the ring, bend your knees and hang on. Did it in some pretty rough weather never got killed. You ate counting the skill of the boat captain and the crane operator and most were very good. Rope swings were another animal. Timing was everything, and was an acquired skill. Some guys made it look easy. I got OK at it, but we had to hump a 60-70 lb tool box back and forth. Huet was fun when I was 25,not so much at 60. Last time through I knew I was done. Prayers for the families.
This post was edited on 12/31/22 at 11:29 am
Posted on 12/31/22 at 12:36 pm to choppadocta
Depends.. Sometimes theres a slash, sometimes theres a dash. In today's market though one thing is pretty much a given, supply issues say we cant get anymore so you gonna have to gather as much smoke as you can and out it back in.
Posted on 12/31/22 at 3:17 pm to jambrous
Have they been able to recover yet?
Posted on 1/2/23 at 8:16 am to phil good
Bump to keep this in the public view since it’s not being mentioned anywhere else.
Is it strange to anyone else how little attention and lack of news coverage this is receiving compared to other things???
Working in this field, as well as having worked on the platform involved in the past, this bothers me a great deal.
This was a smaller rig with a tight brotherhood similar to a lot of other locations in O&G. Hell of a group of guys out there that would do anything for their brothers or anyone else. Can’t imagine the frustration they’re feeling.
The news needs to be pushing for a better recovery effort. I’m still shocked that after it happened it took two hours for the ONE and ONLY rescue helo to be sent out as well as the ONE and ONLY coastguard boat. If I’m wrong about any of the above please correct me.
Is it strange to anyone else how little attention and lack of news coverage this is receiving compared to other things???
Working in this field, as well as having worked on the platform involved in the past, this bothers me a great deal.
This was a smaller rig with a tight brotherhood similar to a lot of other locations in O&G. Hell of a group of guys out there that would do anything for their brothers or anyone else. Can’t imagine the frustration they’re feeling.
The news needs to be pushing for a better recovery effort. I’m still shocked that after it happened it took two hours for the ONE and ONLY rescue helo to be sent out as well as the ONE and ONLY coastguard boat. If I’m wrong about any of the above please correct me.
This post was edited on 1/2/23 at 8:17 am
Posted on 1/2/23 at 8:24 am to Sweep Da Leg
If the helicopter detached from the skids and sank, then that's probably 300-400ft water depth around there. Someone mentioned salvage team with divers but haven't heard any update about that.
I've flown offshore several times and departing the offshore helideck is always the sketchiest part. I've always been on the two pilot/two engine variety H145 or AW139 aircraft which I thought was better until was debunked earlier in the thread.
I've flown offshore several times and departing the offshore helideck is always the sketchiest part. I've always been on the two pilot/two engine variety H145 or AW139 aircraft which I thought was better until was debunked earlier in the thread.
This post was edited on 1/2/23 at 8:25 am
Posted on 1/2/23 at 9:02 am to tiger91
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Did any newbie ever get sent out and have to use that swing rope?
A man I know got his legs pinched between the boat dock and the boat. First time offshore,first time he ever saw a swing rope.
Lost both legs below the knee. Placid Oil. Delta Iron Works. 1970’s. He was from Bayou Black.
Posted on 1/2/23 at 11:40 am to Bigfishchoupique
Our family was notified that they have recovered Robbie from the helicopter. He was still strapped in as expected.
We've known the outcome now for days, but the emotions come now because it's final. I'm just happy they can bring him home.
We've known the outcome now for days, but the emotions come now because it's final. I'm just happy they can bring him home.
Posted on 1/2/23 at 11:58 am to Breadstick Gun
Sad, indeed. Prayers for the family.
Posted on 1/2/23 at 1:11 pm to Hoodatt
AIRCRAFT HELICOPTER BELL 407, HELICOPTER FLIGHT HAD ARRIVED AT WEST DELTA 106 PLATFORM (WD106) AT 0819 (LOCAL) WITH FOUR PASSENGERS ON BOARD. THE FOUR PASSENGERS WERE DROPPED OFF AND THREE PASSENGERS BOARDED THE AIRCRAFT. THE ROTORCRAFT DEPARTED WD106 ENROUTE TO GALLIANO, LA (GAO) AND CRASHED BACK ONTO THE HELIDECK DURING TAKEOFF, SUBSEQUENTLY BREAKING APART AND FELL INTO THE GULF OF MEXICO.
INJURY DATA
Total Fatal: 4
hitting the water probably knocked them out and they drowned unconscious
if anyone was unbelted then they werent knocked out and tried to get out, which is an unimaginble way to go, upside down
spent 7 years in the GOM and CA as a chemical man in inland waters on marsh boat business, seaplane business, shelf and deepwater
have ridden every type of boat and flown in every type of helo out there, swung in flat seas and 6 ft seas, ridden the basket too many times to count. had an operator haze me on a basket by lifting me and then letting me hang over the water while they pretended the crane broke
I dont miss it and I respect everyone out there still dong it everyday
RIP to those men and prayers for their families
INJURY DATA
Total Fatal: 4
hitting the water probably knocked them out and they drowned unconscious
if anyone was unbelted then they werent knocked out and tried to get out, which is an unimaginble way to go, upside down
spent 7 years in the GOM and CA as a chemical man in inland waters on marsh boat business, seaplane business, shelf and deepwater
have ridden every type of boat and flown in every type of helo out there, swung in flat seas and 6 ft seas, ridden the basket too many times to count. had an operator haze me on a basket by lifting me and then letting me hang over the water while they pretended the crane broke
I dont miss it and I respect everyone out there still dong it everyday
RIP to those men and prayers for their families
Posted on 1/2/23 at 1:18 pm to supatigah
So they took off and hit the literal deck? That means those on the deck/platform/whatever (not familiar with terms) saw it happen??
Why would it take two hours to get coast guard out there???
Glad that the gentleman family member of the poster above has been recovered and hope that this means that the others have been as well.
Why would it take two hours to get coast guard out there???
Glad that the gentleman family member of the poster above has been recovered and hope that this means that the others have been as well.
Posted on 1/2/23 at 1:35 pm to Breadstick Gun
Prayers to you and yours, I done many a helicopter ride and as I aged they went from cool to something I was uneasy about.
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