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re: Alton Sterling shooting - discussion thread
Posted on 7/7/16 at 1:13 pm to YouAre8Up
Posted on 7/7/16 at 1:13 pm to YouAre8Up
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I haven't read all 150 something pages but how long was this guys rap sheet?
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FELON Alton Sterling:
•9/09/96 aggravated battery
•10/31/97 2nd degree battery
•1/06/98 simple battery
•5/04/00 public intimidation
•9/20/00 carnal knowledge of a juvenile
•9/04/01 domestic violence
•5/24/05 burglary of an inhabited dwelling place
•7/11/05 receiving stolen things
•9/12/05 burglary of inhabited dwelling place
•3/17/06 simple criminal damage to property, simple robbery, simple theft, drug possession, misrepresentation during booking, simple battery, aggravated battery
•4/12/06 aggravated battery, simple criminal damage to property, disturbing the peace, unauthorized entry
•4/04/08 domestic abuse battery
•6/03/09 resisting an officer, drug possession, receiving stolen things, possession of stolen firearm, illegal carrying of a weapon with CDs, sound reproduce without consent
•10/12/09 illegal carrying of weapon, marijuana possession
•8/13/15 failure to register as a sex offender
•4/08/16 failure to register as a sex offender
•6/14/16 ecstasy and marijuana possession
This post was edited on 7/7/16 at 1:17 pm
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Posted on 7/7/16 at 1:14 pm to YouAre8Up
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I haven't read all 150 something pages but how long was this guys rap sheet?
specifically 3 pages, give or take 20+ arrests over the past 10 or so years. including a charge in 2009 resisting arrest with an illegal firearm as well.
This post was edited on 7/7/16 at 1:16 pm
Posted on 7/7/16 at 1:14 pm to Funky Tide 8
I am not going to argue but can we at least agree if the DA would have complied, he would still be alive today?
Posted on 7/7/16 at 1:15 pm to YouAre8Up
quote:a mile
I haven't read all 150 something pages but how long was this guys rap sheet?
Posted on 7/7/16 at 1:15 pm to Will Cover
Is that the same kid that was crying on stage yesterday?Posted on 7/7/16 at 1:15 pm to musick
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specifically 3 pages, give or take 20+ arrests over the past 10 or so years. including a charge in 2009 for an illegal firearm as well.
actually 20 years
Posted on 7/7/16 at 1:16 pm to Will Cover
Wait, is that really him? It sure looks like it could be.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 1:16 pm to Will Cover
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6/14/16 ecstasy and marijuana possession
Or the new slang "CDs".
Posted on 7/7/16 at 1:16 pm to monkeybutt
I came back because my flight got delayed. And what crap? Stop assuming shite and wait for the trial. I've said 15 times that I think sterling was in the wrong yet you still act like I'm ignorant and pronounce that he is in no doubt guilty like youre the judge and jury. Unless you know more than us monkey boy, I'd suggest letting the trial do the talking
Posted on 7/7/16 at 1:16 pm to Brageous
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Do we know back up wasn't already on the way?
Nope. There seems to be a lot we don't know. Too much for me to have a clear opinion at this time.
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The moron just wouldn't listen and got himself into a shitty situation with cops that weren't going to be killed over him not complying.
No doubt. I'm not saying that the cops murdered the guy or anything, I am simply saying that the one cop made the situation worse for everyone by attempting a tackle. Furthermore, how was the other cop even supposed to know that he was about to attempt a tackle? It just seemed like a bone-headed move on that guys part.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 1:17 pm to MightyYat
photo dated 9 years ago....plus the guns look off
Posted on 7/7/16 at 1:17 pm to Will Cover
Damn, not sure what is more disturbing, the pic or caption.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 1:18 pm to MightyYat
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Wait, is that really him? It sure looks like it could be.
According to this FB page, yes.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 1:18 pm to Puck82
Think about this: The cops are called in to a suspect flashing a gun. The cops are on edge knowing that this situation is in a bad area of town and the suspect is armed.
Now, ask yourself this question. Why did it get to the point of tasering? Obviously, Sterling was being defiant and wasn't complying to verbal commands. So, the situation is elevated to a whole new level. The cops taser him...
The tasering isn't knocking him down. The cops try and take him down (still knowing he's armed with one gun and who knows what else). For all the police could know, he's armed with a gun and a knife.
Sterling still isn't complying with the officer's. Didn't they say:
Officer 2 gave him another command not to move. Obviously, in this split-second, heat of the moment situation, if you are the suspect you should know to be frozen at that particular time. Any slight movement towards the location of the weapon and the officer's are going to use whatever means necessary for their safety.
Now, ask yourself this question. Why did it get to the point of tasering? Obviously, Sterling was being defiant and wasn't complying to verbal commands. So, the situation is elevated to a whole new level. The cops taser him...
The tasering isn't knocking him down. The cops try and take him down (still knowing he's armed with one gun and who knows what else). For all the police could know, he's armed with a gun and a knife.
Sterling still isn't complying with the officer's. Didn't they say:
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Officer 1: “He’s got a gun! Gun!”
Officer 2: “If you fricking move, I swear to god.”
Officer 1: “He’s going for the gun!”
Officer 2 gave him another command not to move. Obviously, in this split-second, heat of the moment situation, if you are the suspect you should know to be frozen at that particular time. Any slight movement towards the location of the weapon and the officer's are going to use whatever means necessary for their safety.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 1:18 pm to StinkBait72
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photo dated 9 years ago....plus the guns look off
They're not shopped.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 1:18 pm to Brageous
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the officers didn't want to get shot through his pants either
I don't understand why this concept is so foreign. I got downvoted for posting earlier that Sterling could have shot the officer without producing the weapon from his pants. Guns can shoot through clothing. A trigger can be pulled from the outside of the pants. His hand attempting to go by the gun justifies the police ending the threat.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 1:19 pm to CarRamrod
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so 10 cops can tackle him and him get shot cause he was resisting?
I guess? It seems like many things would have been smarter than one of the cops making a rogue tackle on the perp.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 1:19 pm to Funky Tide 8
What you described would have ended up the same results but made the police look even worse. You can argue that if they had pulled the gun from the get go, he might have complied. But that'd be a dumb argument seeing how we already saw him resist arrest and kept trying to resist when they pulled a gun on him while they were on top of him.
In your scenario, we'd see a video of two cops pulling a gun on Alton, him moving or looking like he was potentially going for his gun that they know he has been waving at people, and then everyone would be in an uproar because they killed him without trying to take him down and arrest him.
In your scenario, we'd see a video of two cops pulling a gun on Alton, him moving or looking like he was potentially going for his gun that they know he has been waving at people, and then everyone would be in an uproar because they killed him without trying to take him down and arrest him.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 1:19 pm to Vlad
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Damn, not sure what is more disturbing, the pic or caption.
Please know that I did not "create" or "type" this caption.
It was embedded in the picture.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 1:19 pm to Funky Tide 8
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I guess? It seems like many things would have been smarter than one of the cops making a rogue tackle on the perp.
List them.
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