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Posted on 7/6/16 at 8:19 am to
Posted by LSUfanNkaty
LC, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 7/6/16 at 8:19 am to
quote:

pot meet kettle


Sweet Jesus... it was just a matter of time. I enjoy reading the shite you spew out...
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
85737 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 8:20 am to
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Convicted felon resisting after being tased and illegally carrying a firearm? They've done enough already.



were the cops aware that he was a convicted felon and the gun was illegal?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 7/6/16 at 8:20 am to
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Literally none of this happened in any video posted on the matter.


Again, awfully convenient the vids all start after the tasing began.
Posted by geauxtigers87
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2011
27270 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 8:20 am to
He was a good boy. Only if you knew him
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 7/6/16 at 8:20 am to
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were the cops aware that he was a convicted felon and the gun was illegal?


Doesn't matter to me. The facts are what they are.
Posted by tankyank13
NOLA
Member since Nov 2012
8248 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 8:21 am to
I was wondering how one can say so much stupid shite



quote:

you as dumb




Nevermind
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
12575 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 8:21 am to
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Only 1 up vote and 7 down votes to this response is telling. The police can be overwhelmed due to poor or inadequate training and still be justified in shooting the man. I think a reasonable person can separate the two ideas. Hell, I'd think even the officers would have behaved differently in hindsight. If they knew he had a gun it is unlikely the approach him in such a manner. They tackled him to get him to the ground but that escalated the situation to deadly force once the gun appeared, if the gun appeared. Once that happened, shooting seems justified, but the question is if that was avoidable in the first place.


wasnt the original call regarding his possession of a gun though? otherwise, generally, i agree.

and i dont think thats any kind of scorched earth anti-police stance, simply that i think rarely do we end up with a dead guy and 2 fighting for their livelihood unless both sides missed some chances to de-escalate along the way. certainly plenty of exceptions to that rule.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
92656 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 8:21 am to
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without reaching for his weapon, how could that be justified?

Didn't the 911 call say he was threatening people with a gun?

You think in the ensuing take down the officers had any clue where the gun was? So they should just continue to struggle until they see a glint of steel?

Need to give ol boy a fighting chance to defend himself first right?
Posted by LSUfanNkaty
LC, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
11952 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 8:21 am to
quote:

He was a good boy. Only if you knew him


The definition of an upstanding citizen
Posted by Box Geauxrilla
Member since Jun 2013
19220 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 8:22 am to
Only in America can a registered sex offender, with over 20 years of violent crimes and felonies, be shot for reaching for an illegal firearm while resisting arrest after selling bootleg CDs, and that man be considered a martyr.

What kind of fricked up times do we live?
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91506 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 8:22 am to
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An officer fighting with a large convicted felon that has already shrugged off a taser shouldn't have to wait till the last second to make sure this guy is reaching for his gun and not just scratching an itch during the middle of the fight.



You're not wrong, but that is why this kind of thing sucks and is tragic. If it was an average citizen he/she would no doubt be much more susceptible to a murder charge.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
85737 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 8:22 am to
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Sweet Jesus... it was just a matter of time. I enjoy reading the shite you spew out...



seriously, are you people retarded?

the ones that get offended for anyone asking basic questions regarded the situation are just as dumb as the people yelling "murder!" in these cases

Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
85737 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 8:22 am to
quote:

Didn't the 911 call say he was threatening people with a gun?

You think in the ensuing take down the officers had any clue where the gun was? So they should just continue to struggle until they see a glint of steel?


so why not just shoot him when they roll up?
Posted by Solo
Member since Aug 2008
8257 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 8:23 am to
Just saw the video. Yikes. Hope that cop doesn't have a wife and kids. Prayers to all. Going to be a rough ride.
Posted by REB BEER
Laffy Yet
Member since Dec 2010
17884 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 8:23 am to
If you are carrying a firearm and fight with the police, you can expect a very bad outcome.

If you comply with the officers in an orderly fashion not to make them fear for their safety, I guarantee things will turn out better for you.

The underlying problem is that black men have been taught that the police are their enemy and are out to harm them, so their first reaction is to become argumentative and combative. Until the perception of black Americans toward the police changes, this shite will continue.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 8:23 am to
Did the shooting start yet?
Posted by LSUfanNkaty
LC, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
11952 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 8:23 am to
quote:

seriously, are you people retarded?

the ones that get offended for anyone asking basic questions regarded the situation are just as dumb as the people yelling "murder!" in these cases


Sure... whatever you say. The ones who ask ridiculous questions just to attempt to instigate are also, equally retarded, in my book.
Posted by bwallcubfan
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
39137 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 8:23 am to
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didndunuffin press conference going strong.



guy next to her wearing Trayvon tee
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
88793 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 8:23 am to
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If it was an average citizen he/she would no doubt be much more susceptible to a murder charge.


I mean, that's not a particularly fair comparison. Why would an average citizen be attempting to detain this guy? I don't see how you can compare this situation to one between two regular people.
Posted by Icansee4miles
Trolling the Tickfaw
Member since Jan 2007
32078 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 8:24 am to
How many of this overflowing stage of peeps would have been at Parish Prison with bail money for him if he had peacefully followed instructions as directed?
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