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re: Beryl Thread - the clean up begins...
Posted on 7/10/24 at 2:23 pm to tiger91
Posted on 7/10/24 at 2:23 pm to tiger91
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how does center point or any entergy company “prevent” this?
Spend a boat load of money on storm hardening or enhanced O&M. That would get passed back to the customers though. Utilities love being able to spend more money because they make a fixed margin. But they have to balance that with defaults, which skyrocket when rates increase substantially.
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Posted on 7/10/24 at 2:29 pm to billjamin
What do you mean defaults? People who can’t pay their power bill?
Posted on 7/10/24 at 2:30 pm to billjamin
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Spend a boat load of money on storm hardening or enhanced O&M.
Utilities in Louisiana aren’t allowed to earn on O&M. They only earn on capital expenditures. Storm hardening would be a capital project they could earn on, but even then they’d have to make the case to the commission and the commission would have to approve the ROI.
Posted on 7/10/24 at 2:36 pm to TulaneUVA
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What do you mean defaults? People who can’t pay their power bill?
Correct. And utilities have limited ways to recapture because of their regulated status. This is a little funky in Tx specifically because you have retail energy providers then the regulated grid operators. But it's still hard to force people to pay bills. Especially when they remove ability to disconnect for non-payment for half the year because of storms, heat waves, etc.
Posted on 7/10/24 at 2:38 pm to 9Fiddy
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Utilities in Louisiana aren’t allowed to earn on O&M. They only earn on capital expenditures. Storm hardening would be a capital project they could earn on, but even then they’d have to make the case to the commission and the commission would have to approve the ROI.
Complicated but fun topic. Correct that they can only make ROI on capital investments with PUC approval. They can't technically get an ROI on O&M, but they do get to bury a bunch of opex and increase their enterprise value on the back of the customer. Which they enjoy.
Posted on 7/10/24 at 2:55 pm to billjamin
Hearing ten towers came down unexpectedly and passing the blame on it.. idk.. also hearing unexpected trees were part blame for that.. not that I believe this but let’s say you are aware of ten transmission towers that are critical to maintaining power to over two million people and they have large trees around them that can not handle a tropical storm…
Hmmm cut the trees down. Yeah it is much more complicated but doing nothing for years except planning is not the solution..
Hmmm cut the trees down. Yeah it is much more complicated but doing nothing for years except planning is not the solution..
Posted on 7/10/24 at 3:07 pm to Thecoz
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also hearing unexpected trees were part blame for that
Trees in a transmission easement would be peak negligence.
Posted on 7/10/24 at 3:33 pm to bopper50
Glad you got power... past 3pm on Wednesday and still no power near Imperial Sugar. Hoping we get it soon.
Posted on 7/10/24 at 3:51 pm to Thecoz
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Hearing ten towers came down unexpectedly
I've seen this mentioned a few times in this thread. What kind of towers? High tension power poles or something similar? Those take big winds to bring down, the type of wind that Houston didn't get from this storm.
If this storm brought down that type of infrastructure then there are some serious questions that need to be asked and answered.
Posted on 7/10/24 at 3:51 pm to 18handicap
The outage map is updated. There are now two options for energized.
Energized and energized with potential nested outage.
My place is the second one.
Energized and energized with potential nested outage.
My place is the second one.
Posted on 7/10/24 at 3:52 pm to Thecoz
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Hearing ten towers came down unexpectedly and passing the blame on it
It would be helpful if Center Point would communicate that 10 towers are knocked down and it will be weeks.
Posted on 7/10/24 at 3:55 pm to TigerFred
They can earn on O&M, just not "directly". "Cost of Service" is one way they earn a margin. So, higher the cost of service, higher the rates, all else equal.
Posted on 7/10/24 at 4:02 pm to TigerFred
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It would be helpful if Center Point would communicate that 10 towers are knocked down and it will be weeks.
Any pictures of this? Are the all in one place or spread out?
Posted on 7/10/24 at 4:09 pm to TigerFred
quote:Time to go work remotely some place until this shite is resolved
Hearing ten towers came down unexpectedly and passing the blame on it
Posted on 7/10/24 at 4:32 pm to 225rumpshaker
I still don’t have power and hope the people on the ring neighborhood app are wrong. Lots of comments are saying early next week due to a downed power pole. I’m in Richmond
Posted on 7/10/24 at 4:34 pm to msutiger
Rummy told me I was safe
Posted on 7/10/24 at 4:36 pm to OWLFAN86
I’m out of town and have ten pounds of shrimp in the freezer. Hope my neighbors enjoy the smell that will soon be exuding from my house
Posted on 7/10/24 at 4:38 pm to msutiger
If it weren't for the cold showers I take twice a day
Posted on 7/10/24 at 4:47 pm to OWLFAN86
Mattress Mack is giving away food and has charging and cooling stations set up for people
Glad you are alive, Owl
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Posted on 7/10/24 at 5:27 pm to msutiger
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have ten pounds of shrimp in the freezer
sounds like you'll be buying a new freezer.
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