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re: Brussels Airport and Metro terrorist attack
Posted on 3/22/16 at 3:43 pm to dawgfan24348
Posted on 3/22/16 at 3:43 pm to dawgfan24348
And that is exactly the goal of the islamic state. They want all Muslims to be alienated and have no other choice but to side with them when they have no other place to turn. Unfortunately, it has worked very well. More and more muslims are radicalized every day after they see what they deem as unjust treatment at the hands of westerners. I see no end to this, only blood.
Posted on 3/22/16 at 3:49 pm to Blue Velvet
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You're so persecuted, victimized, and righteous.
Nothing quite like a douche who has a thin skin over being called out on his douchebaggery.
Posted on 3/22/16 at 3:50 pm to DatNolaClap
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that is exactly the goal of the islamic state. They want all Muslims to be alienated and have no other choice but to side with them when they have no other place to turn. Unfortunately, it has worked very well. More and more muslims are radicalized every day after they see what they deem as unjust treatment at the hands of westerners. I see no end to this, only blood.
This is true.
But what else are people supposed to do in these countries like Belgium? I sure as shite am not comfortable when Hassam Al FaDouche comes and sits next to me with a fat winter coat on in the middle of summer on the Brussels subway.
Posted on 3/22/16 at 3:50 pm to The Boat
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They think the same cell from the Paris attack committed this attack. This was a massive intelligence breakdown.
Like I said the European governments absolutely have no control or idea of what is happening until it's fatally late.
If it's true that a huge ISIS database was intercepted with real names, ID's, photos, and other identifiers and payroll information then that's the key to crushing those frickers.
Let Israel's special forces do what they do best and let them recreate the Munich operations and eliminate those names and their associates wherever they may be in the world.
Every free state on the planet has a vested interest in stopping this Muslim jihad.
Posted on 3/22/16 at 3:52 pm to molsusports
molsusports
Highly intellectual thoughts you have sir. In the meantime how many westerners will pay the ultimate price over the next 100 yrs implementing these vestiges of "hope and change"? My guess is #2 would be the most difficult...your thoughts?

Highly intellectual thoughts you have sir. In the meantime how many westerners will pay the ultimate price over the next 100 yrs implementing these vestiges of "hope and change"? My guess is #2 would be the most difficult...your thoughts?
Posted on 3/22/16 at 3:52 pm to DatNolaClap
It's only gonna get worse. After 9/11 happened, nobody in this country is immune to an attack. Even in the middle of Nebraska. I worry about Exxon and them somehow crash a plane there. Locally. Attacks are coming to America. There are too many people already in this country that will bring harm and we can't stop it. It's just a matter of where and when they want to cause a problem. Technology is great but will end up being our down fall.
Posted on 3/22/16 at 3:56 pm to molsusports
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People can be convinced through reason to change
Provided, of course, that they're reasonable people to begin with. In most cases, this isn't so.
Posted on 3/22/16 at 3:57 pm to larry289
I think his point was that yes, you have to kill all of the current ones, but you've got to do something to dissuade new recruits also
Posted on 3/22/16 at 4:01 pm to TheCaterpillar
I dont know man. I've been thinking about a possible solution to end islamic terrorism for years and i just cant find one. There are no easy answers in this case. I think ISIS will get their wish. Muslims against the rest of the Earth. The world is growing more scary by the day.
Posted on 3/22/16 at 4:02 pm to Blue Velvet
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. I'll pray for you.
That's funny coming from you. You've done nothing in this thread except call out other posters or point your finger at the US's foreign policies and military actions. Most here are discussing the events related to the thread and how to handle such violence. As someone that has such a "better than you" attitude you would think by now you would have posted something of substance as it relates to this thread topic
This post was edited on 3/22/16 at 4:08 pm
Posted on 3/22/16 at 4:10 pm to PuntBamaPunt
Some veterans/gov. contractors should start snatching their families and post videos of their executions.
Posted on 3/22/16 at 4:17 pm to larry289
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Highly intellectual thoughts you have sir. In the meantime how many westerners will pay the ultimate price over the next 100 yrs implementing these vestiges of "hope and change"? My guess is #2 would be the most difficult...your thoughts?
I don't think anyone can know how bloody and how long it will be bloody. My personal guess is that the emerging civil wars between shia and sunni (and islamist versus moderates) will be very bad over the next 1-4 decades. Most of the violence will be within the Muslim world and communities with islamist muslims.
The biggest danger for the west in this timeframe is probably a loose nuke or infectious biological agent before the agents of state and popular fundamentalism can be tempered. We get very upset about small random acts of violence like mass shootings or what happened in Belgium - but in the larger scale their importance relates more to their effects on public opinion than body count - in terms of raw body count many other more mundane issues (e.g. traffic fatalities or deaths due to obesity) dwarf the effects of western terror (obviously this is not true for you if you live in Iraq).
We should try to be optimistic. Consensus can change very rapidly, often surprisingly rapidly. If modern culture can weather the storm while the religious teachings of moderates gain ground the violence might fade as successfully (although likely not as abruptly) as it did in germany post world war II.
Posted on 3/22/16 at 4:36 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
I have listened to all these so called leaders spit out the same shite every time one of these attacks happen.
"We stand in solidarity with so and so country in this time of crisis"
"We must increase communication of intelligence amongst our allies"
" Our thoughts and prayers with the victims and their families"
" We must unite in our stance against terrorism"
There has been so many of these attacks that I am almost positive they all use the same speech, and just change the names for each new event. It sounds like groundhog day every time this happens, & I have yet to see any positive steps forward.
It saddens me to think that it will take another attack the scale of 9/11 before the real leaders of the world come together and put a legitimate military plan of action to work.
"We stand in solidarity with so and so country in this time of crisis"
"We must increase communication of intelligence amongst our allies"
" Our thoughts and prayers with the victims and their families"
" We must unite in our stance against terrorism"
There has been so many of these attacks that I am almost positive they all use the same speech, and just change the names for each new event. It sounds like groundhog day every time this happens, & I have yet to see any positive steps forward.
It saddens me to think that it will take another attack the scale of 9/11 before the real leaders of the world come together and put a legitimate military plan of action to work.
Posted on 3/22/16 at 4:54 pm to DatNolaClap
I've tried to make this point on the Political Board:
The same people who say that Islam is a religion of peaceful people also make the argument in the same breath that fighting back against them only creates more terrorists.
I've never understood how they get to have it both ways.
How does one get to claim that Islam is a religion of peaceful people with a few bad apples and also get to argue that the general Muslim population is easily radicalized?
Those two arguments cannot logically coexist.
The same people who say that Islam is a religion of peaceful people also make the argument in the same breath that fighting back against them only creates more terrorists.
I've never understood how they get to have it both ways.
How does one get to claim that Islam is a religion of peaceful people with a few bad apples and also get to argue that the general Muslim population is easily radicalized?
Those two arguments cannot logically coexist.
This post was edited on 3/22/16 at 4:56 pm
Posted on 3/22/16 at 4:55 pm to Spinthemusic
Maybe it's time we publish equally gruesome propaganda videos. As we capture ISIS militants, we should torture them on film. Waterboard their asses on screen. Then, when we are through with them, allow a female to cover his body in dead big, and kill him.
Posted on 3/22/16 at 4:55 pm to dukke v
I always worried about Exxon plant here. I remember back in 2004 or something some middle easterns wanted to learn how to fly a small plane but not worried about landing and wanted to fly over Exxon or get a map of Exxon. Both were immediately deported and nothing came out of it. If Exxon did blow up how much of the city would be destroyed?
Posted on 3/22/16 at 5:04 pm to The Boat
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This is the new normal for Europe.
I posted this right after the news broke. European officials have been using this phrase all day.
European officials read TD.
Posted on 3/22/16 at 5:13 pm to Scoop
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I've tried to make this point on the Political Board:
The same people who say that Islam is a religion of peaceful people also make the argument in the same breath that fighting back against them only creates more terrorists.
Because it does, if the only action taken is military. We fought back in Iraq in 2003, now look where we are at. We have to figure out a way to squash the ideology so that there is no next generation of radicals after we militarily squash the majority of the current radicals.
THAT is what most politicians don't understand.
This post was edited on 3/22/16 at 5:16 pm
Posted on 3/22/16 at 5:29 pm to SUB
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Because it does, if the only action taken is military. We fought back in Iraq in 2003, now look where we are at. We have to figure out a way to squash the ideology so that there is no next generation of radicals after we militarily squash the majority of the current radicals.
THAT is what most politicians don't understand.
As shitty as it sounds, we just need to stay in our respective corners. We're not going to change their culture and if we try, it will be viewed the same as launching a missile into a mosque. killing them doesn't work but neither does trying to reason with them.
Posted on 3/22/16 at 5:31 pm to upgrayedd
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