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re: Christianity and Aliens
Posted on 2/20/26 at 10:11 am to Sus-Scrofa
Posted on 2/20/26 at 10:11 am to Sus-Scrofa
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All three of these statements are correct:
If aliens do not exist, that fact would lend support to Christianity and biblical creation.
If Christianity and biblical creation are not true, there have to be aliens out there.
If aliens exist, Christianity and biblical creation could still be true, but it makes for an interesting discussion
The second statement is definitely not true. The first statement is kind of meaningless and likely not true. The third could be true, but is doubtful.
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Posted on 2/20/26 at 10:12 am to SallysHuman
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Well, at least you don't seem to subscribe to primordial ooze ---> human.
"from the goo to you by way of the zoo"
Posted on 2/20/26 at 10:15 am to Mo Jeaux
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The second statement is definitely not true. The first statement is kind of meaningless and likely not true. The third could be true, but is doubtful.
The second statement is just odds and statistics. If earth and all of us are just random chance creation, you have to figure it has happened more than once.
Posted on 2/20/26 at 10:17 am to SallysHuman
No. The book of Enoch is quite interesting.
Posted on 2/20/26 at 10:23 am to notsince98
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The book of Enoch is quite interesting
Indeed along with Genesis 6
Anyone who's interested in that should read
The Invisible War by Donald Barnhouse is also very good
This post was edited on 2/20/26 at 10:31 am
Posted on 2/20/26 at 10:38 am to Sus-Scrofa
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All three of these statements are correct:
If aliens do not exist, that fact would lend support to Christianity and biblical creation.
If Christianity and biblical creation are not true, there have to be aliens out there.
If aliens exist, Christianity and biblical creation could still be true, but it makes for an interesting discussion
Statement 1 - 70% of Earth's population is NOT Christian and therefore, likely, disagree with this. God John 3:16'ed when and where He did. The results? 70% is not Christian. Hardly God-like results. This is not simply explained by human failure to accept Him. Faster population growth in geographies far removed from John 3:16 point in place/time, language translation, pen holders limitations, etc explains much of it. If no aliens (or other explanation), we are left with possible conclusion that Jesus was not intended for everyone on Earth. A bad look and feel.
Statement 2 - dichotomy of either Christian OR Alien? The open mindedness is progress. Struggle with the possible explanations for lack of clear explanations that we are left with, ie, resulting in many pages on this subject in this post). Could be other explanations. One thing is for sure, if it were absolutely God-like clarity as presented in Christian teachings, why all the uncertainty? Precious life, a central tenet, dies everyday because of lack of clarity. Bad look and feel.
Statement 3 - if this is true, the need for explanations for the gaps in Religious teachings would be astronomical (pun intended). Just think of all of the present-day and those who came before us who are no longer with us...all duped? Yikes.
This post was edited on 2/20/26 at 10:47 am
Posted on 2/20/26 at 10:38 am to SallysHuman
Genesis 1:1, "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth,"
Notice how the bible says that the first thing God did was create the heavens before the earth.. So that alone says he created space and other planets first.
Interesting enough when one star dies another is born.. This evolvement happens over billion of years.
Now suppose a planet far away was created before our earth. IF it had life it could be millions of years older than man.
Who is to say that the genetic code for man didn't come from a passing comet crashing into the building earth? Or maybe even a passing space ship.
Notice how the bible says that the first thing God did was create the heavens before the earth.. So that alone says he created space and other planets first.
Interesting enough when one star dies another is born.. This evolvement happens over billion of years.
Now suppose a planet far away was created before our earth. IF it had life it could be millions of years older than man.
Who is to say that the genetic code for man didn't come from a passing comet crashing into the building earth? Or maybe even a passing space ship.
This post was edited on 2/20/26 at 6:52 pm
Posted on 2/20/26 at 10:40 am to SallysHuman
We won the Crusades and I doubt aliens wear suicide vests so we got this.
Posted on 2/20/26 at 10:42 am to SallysHuman
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God created ALL things.
Posted on 2/20/26 at 10:42 am to Everyday Is Saturday
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Statement 1 - 70% of Earth's population is NOT Christian and therefore, likely, disagree with this. God John 3:16'ed when and where He did. The results? 70% is not Christian. Hardly God-like results. This is not simply explained by human failure to accept Him. Faster population growth in geographies far removed from John 3:16 point in place/time, language translation, pen holders limitations, etc explains much of it. If no aliens (or other explanation), we are left with possible conclusion that Jesus was not intended for everyone on Earth. A bad look and feel. Statement 2 - dichotomy of either Christian OR Alien (and no other possible explanations for lack of clear explanations that we are left with, resulting in many pages on this subject in this post) is needed. Additional consideration to any religion is progress. Statement 3 - if this is true, the gaps in Religious teachings would be astronomical (pun intended). Just think of all of the present-day and those who came before us who are no longer with us...duped? Yikes.
Well of course. If you take Christianity out of a discussion of “Christianity and Aliens”, the discussion changes.
I was just playing in the OP’s sandbox.
This post was edited on 2/20/26 at 10:44 am
Posted on 2/20/26 at 10:43 am to WWII Collector
I have long thought about this. I find it humorous that people who believe we grew from clumps of cells think we are the only intelligent lifeforms in existence.
It's probably more likely that God himself is just a super evolved lifeform who figured out how to create life.
It's also interesting that we can only breed through sex and birthing humans through other humans. Why aren't clumps of cells still turning into humans from nothing today?
There isnt a single recorded evidence of a human being not being born and spawning from nothing other than the creation story.
Even Jesus himself was born.
It's probably more likely that God himself is just a super evolved lifeform who figured out how to create life.
It's also interesting that we can only breed through sex and birthing humans through other humans. Why aren't clumps of cells still turning into humans from nothing today?
There isnt a single recorded evidence of a human being not being born and spawning from nothing other than the creation story.
Even Jesus himself was born.
This post was edited on 2/20/26 at 10:48 am
Posted on 2/20/26 at 10:44 am to saint tiger225
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God created ALL things.
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~Except internet arseholes... Man made those.
Posted on 2/20/26 at 10:45 am to saint tiger225
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saint tiger225
Dunno why you're laughing.
God created all things.
If I'm wrong, I've lost nothing. If I'm right, you're in for a shock.
Your mockery does not move me.
Posted on 2/20/26 at 10:51 am to SallysHuman
Mockery is sad display of what humans are capable of.
Unless you are wrong (ie, God as you know it might be very different presentation of God, or perhaps Gods, or even something altogether different).
Pascal's wager only works with certain betting rules (limits).
Love the discussion. Don't love the mockery (to poster above).
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If I'm wrong, I've lost nothing. If I'm right, you're in for a shock.
Unless you are wrong (ie, God as you know it might be very different presentation of God, or perhaps Gods, or even something altogether different).
Pascal's wager only works with certain betting rules (limits).
Love the discussion. Don't love the mockery (to poster above).
Posted on 2/20/26 at 10:52 am to SallysHuman
Sounds like you lack true conviction in your beliefs. I'm sure sky daddy doesn't appreciate that.
This post was edited on 2/20/26 at 10:53 am
Posted on 2/20/26 at 10:55 am to Sus-Scrofa
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Well of course. If you take Christianity out of a discussion of “Christianity and Aliens”, the discussion changes.
Fair point
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I was just playing in the OP’s sandbox.
Don't limit the logic. Let it fly!
Posted on 2/20/26 at 10:55 am to Everyday Is Saturday
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Unless you are wrong (ie, God as you know it might be very different presentation of God, or perhaps Gods, or even something altogether different).
But what do I lose?
Anywho... No wagering here, I don't seek to hedge my bets, true believer.
Posted on 2/20/26 at 10:55 am to SallysHuman
Did he send Jesus to all of those other places too? or was it an alien jesus that traveled there?
Posted on 2/20/26 at 10:58 am to oldcharlie8
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Did he send Jesus to all of those other places too? or was it an alien jesus that traveled there?
What other places?
I'm positing that angels and fallen angels could very well be what is thought of as "alien" or better stated "extraterrestrial".
Posted on 2/20/26 at 11:00 am to oldcharlie8
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Did he send Jesus to all of those other places too? or was it an alien jesus that traveled there?
Maybe he’s trying different approaches on other alien planets.
Or if he used the same approach there might be one planet out there where they didn’t eat the fruit and have just been partying it up for thousands and thousands of years.
This post was edited on 2/20/26 at 11:02 am
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