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re: Damn. Flex Wheeler's leg was amputated.
Posted on 11/17/19 at 11:07 pm to genro
Posted on 11/17/19 at 11:07 pm to genro
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creatine and most of your "legit" supplements) are hell on the kidneys
Jesus you are fricking stupid. Creatine is the most studied supplement in history and not one study in thirty years backs your claim.
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 11:13 pm to WaydownSouth
AAS’s indirectly affect the liver by putting a strain on your kidneys from all the metabolic byproducts of increasing your muscle mass quickly.
Posted on 11/17/19 at 11:17 pm to prplhze2000
What am I missing here?
Posted on 11/17/19 at 11:28 pm to lsu777
quote:I don't know what garbage you've read on your bodybuilding sites, but creatine is a basic, natural metabolite of the kidney. The kidneys must break it down into creatinine. When you artificially take excess creatine you are adding strain to the kidneys. It is almost axiomatic that abuse is bad for the kidneys. And every study as well as every legitimate medical article even without conclusive evidence will express this basic concern
Jesus you are fricking stupid. Creatine is the most studied supplement in history and not one study in thirty years backs your claim.
There have not been a ton of studies as you describe, there's a 30-year chronic study, I think a recent one in 2018 and a few acute ones from the 90s but all kept under strict "safe" doses
I know I see a surprising number of gym rat patients in their late 30s who have renal problems and swore they only took creatine and other safe supps
This post was edited on 11/17/19 at 11:30 pm
Posted on 11/18/19 at 12:17 am to prplhze2000
Can he start skipping leg day?
Posted on 11/18/19 at 3:35 am to genro
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without conclusive evidence
Posted on 11/18/19 at 5:21 am to prplhze2000
Drugs are not good for you kids.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 6:01 am to genro
Thing is you are raining on these gym rats’ parade......don’t want to risk not having the pink jug to haul around the gym.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 6:12 am to CharlesLSU
Damn - the price of modern day bodybuilding. Ronnie Coleman went through some crazy shite too.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 6:26 am to noonan
Pretty insensitive to bring up skipping at a time like this. FWIW, leg day should remain unaffected. Getting in a full legs day is out of the question.
This post was edited on 11/18/19 at 6:27 am
Posted on 11/18/19 at 6:55 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
Most likely creatine not steroids
Posted on 11/18/19 at 7:30 am to prplhze2000
Not replying specifically to you prpl,
But the super high protein intake is more likely the culprit. I know a guy who was in to bodybuilding and needed, and got, kidney transplant. Didn’t lose his leg though.
But the super high protein intake is more likely the culprit. I know a guy who was in to bodybuilding and needed, and got, kidney transplant. Didn’t lose his leg though.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 7:31 am to jdd48
Ronnie? Just can't walk is all. No big deal.
Then there is Greg Kovacs.
Then there is Greg Kovacs.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 7:55 am to genro
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I know I see a surprising number of gym rat patients in their late 30s who have renal problems and swore they only took creatine and other safe supps
I personally have a friend that went into renal failure specifically from taking huge doses of creatine. That's exactly what the doc told him caused it. So you're right and the poster above is full of shite.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 7:57 am to bayouman
Wrong
steroid abuse along with HGH and Insulin
Medical literature has proven steroids to be effective in therapeutic dosages
steroid abuse along with HGH and Insulin
Medical literature has proven steroids to be effective in therapeutic dosages
Posted on 11/18/19 at 7:58 am to genro
Creatine is fine as long as you drink enough water
That myth was busted 20 years ago
That myth was busted 20 years ago
Posted on 11/18/19 at 8:01 am to supadave3
Huge doses
You only need 2.5-5 grams a day
The old 20 grams of creatine loading is garbage and outdated practice
You only need 2.5-5 grams a day
The old 20 grams of creatine loading is garbage and outdated practice
This post was edited on 11/18/19 at 8:02 am
Posted on 11/18/19 at 8:05 am to lsucoonass
I looked at this tread and thought it was about Pete Wheeler for some reason. I almost cried when I saw pete lost his wheels
Posted on 11/18/19 at 8:09 am to prplhze2000
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Flex Wheeler's leg was amputated
Is this what we’re calling OweO now?
Posted on 11/18/19 at 9:05 am to genro
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don't know what garbage you've read on your bodybuilding sites, but creatine is a basic, natural metabolite of the kidney
It is natural but mainly produced in the liver.
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The kidneys must break it down into creatinine. When you artificially take excess creatine you are adding strain to the kidneys. It is almost axiomatic that abuse is bad for the kidneys.
Wrong, It increases levels of creatinine in the body, which are a marker of poor kidney function. However, the increase in creatinine isn't due to kidney damage, but simply more creatinine being produced.
Creatine supplementation usually increases serum creatinine levels during the loading phase (but usually not during maintenance), since creatinine is the breakdown product of creatine. This is not indicative of kidney damage.
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There have not been a ton of studies as you describe, there's a 30-year chronic study, I think a recent one in 2018 and a few acute ones from the 90s but all kept under strict "safe" doses
I know I see a surprising number of gym rat patients in their late 30s who have renal problems and swore they only took creatine and other safe supps
Again you don't know what you are talking about. Here is a link to 14 studies just on the effects on the kidneys.
LINK
And you mean guys aren't admitting they took an illegal substance that could effect the cost of future medical care....shocking.
Again you are suing emotion and non scientific facts to get your point across. The facts say you are wrong and that's ok, we all should be learning new things every day.
LINK
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