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Posted on 3/2/15 at 9:05 am to
Posted by lsunurse
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Posted on 3/2/15 at 9:05 am to
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or released her medical records with pressuring her or not even obtaining her permission


I'm gonna guess this will be the lawsuit. As a nurse if you were to tell the media someone else's medical status...you would be fired and possibly lose your license for violating HIPAA. And the hospital could be fined $$$$ as well.
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 9:08 am to
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Was also the hardest part for people to do correctly.


When we did ours we were completely covered from head to toe and were made to wear N-95 masks. By the time you suited up and stood around in it for 10 minutes and were taking the gear off....you felt like you couldn't breathe and I could feel myself wanting to rush the steps just so I could take the mask off and be able to breathe again. Made me wonder how in the hell we were supposed to be able to actually care for an Ebola patient for long periods of time in all that garb without fainting.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 9:13 am to
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When we did ours we were completely covered from head to toe and were made to wear N-95 masks. By the time you suited up and stood around in it for 10 minutes and were taking the gear off....you felt like you couldn't breathe and I could feel myself wanting to rush the steps just so I could take the mask off and be able to breathe again.


When we were first setting up the unit years ago, we realized this issue with N-95s. That's why we use PAPR's almost exclusively - much more comfortable for nursing staff, much more conducive to decent shift length.

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Made me wonder how in the hell we were supposed to be able to actually care for an Ebola patient for long periods of time in all that garb without fainting.


Cold, cold, cold rooms. Lots of blankets for the patient if they wanted it, but cooling the rooms way down is the only way to facilitate 4 hours in the room at a time without a break.
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 9:17 am to
Found another article that goes in more depth

LINK




Says she is suing because of the lack of appropriate training and equipment given to staff by the hospital. Talks about them having to use PPE that had parts of them exposed(plastic gowns) and how the hospital didn't give them the adequate training as well.


Article also says she hasn't returned to work still and is still suffering from effects of the Ebola on her body and that she may never return to nursing again.

I wonder if the hospital/workman's comp paid for all her belongings to be replaced as well....remember they went to her apartment and destroyed pretty much everything she owned to decontaminate.
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 9:18 am to
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That's why we use PAPR's almost exclusively - much more comfortable for nursing staff, much more conducive to decent shift length.



We asked for PAPRs and were told it wasn't in the budget and not necessary.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
45810 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 9:22 am to
She should. She wasn't provided proper training or protective gear to perform her work functions. She followed directions from her supervisors of what to wear and how to protect herself and those directions were later revealed to be completely inadequate. The hospital management failed in their duties to provide training and supplies to treat the patient but directed their staff to treat those patients anyway - with info they found on the internet.
Posted by cjared036
Houston, tx
Member since Dec 2009
9569 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 9:24 am to
gotcha.

didn't know the full details of the case.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 9:24 am to
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We asked for PAPRs and were told it wasn't in the budget and not necessary.


Terrible. Dr. Ribner has always insisted that while they're not necessary to stop the spread, per se, they're absolutely necessary to a nurse performing the job of caring for one of those patients correctly.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
29596 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 9:25 am to
You're wasting your time by arguing with LNCHBOX. He will always play the antagonist. Sometimes I'm convinced he gets sexually aroused by arguing with people. There is no other excuse for his constant arguing.
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
52501 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 9:30 am to
You can count the hospitals on one hand in this country that were prepared and properly trained to treat that mess AT THAT TIME. Hers wasn't one of them.

The young lady's claims are valid. Half the stuff the CDC was sending out was complete horseshite. That's who is to blame here.
Posted by bigpetedatiga
Alexandria, LA
Member since Aug 2009
8758 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 9:34 am to
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Agreed. She better win this damn thing, because otherwise she's screwed as far as having any job in the healthcare industry is concerned. They don't take too kindly on being sued by their own employees.


Plenty of medical professions working in their field after suing their employers.

I have seen a couple of surgeons get fired by one hospital, sue them, then walk across the street and start working for the competition.

Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 3/2/15 at 9:34 am to
Your hard on for me is duly noted. This is at least the third time in a week you've made a post about me. It's kind of cute.

ETA: Also funny you bring me up after I'd left the thread and wasn't actively arguing. Good stuff though.
This post was edited on 3/2/15 at 9:36 am
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
36766 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 9:39 am to
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Agreed. She better win this damn thing, because otherwise she's screwed as far as having any job in the healthcare industry is concerned. They don't take too kindly on being sued by their own employees.


Plenty of medical professions working in their field after suing their employers.

I have seen a couple of surgeons get fired by one hospital, sue them, then walk across the street and start working for the competition.




I work in healthcare, and had a coworker who was fired, sued the hospital, and was then hired by another department while the lawsuit was still active.

It was pretty ridiculous
Posted by SirSaintly
Uptown, New Orleans
Member since Feb 2013
3187 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 9:42 am to
Texas has a $250k cap on pain & suffering damages. Even if she wins and from what I understand, that's a big if (this is TX and not some place like California) she may not receive as much as she thinks. Certainly not enough to retire. I'm not so sure I'd be suing them and basically ruin any chances of working again.
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 9:45 am to
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Plenty of medical professions working in their field after suing their employers.


Article says she may not even go back to nursing.



If I had went through all that...I might want a different nursing job as well. I mean...her face and name was allll over the news. She were to care for a patient....would the family judge her like those in this thread who say it was all her fault she got Ebola? Would it bring unnecessary attention to herself as a nurse? Would people always want to talk about that time with her?
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
36766 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 9:48 am to
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Texas has a $250k cap on pain & suffering damages. Even if she wins and from what I understand, that's a big if (this is TX and not some place like California) she may not receive as much as she thinks. Certainly not enough to retire. I'm not so sure I'd be suing them and basically ruin any chances of working again.


Not only pain and suffering, also possible HIPAA violation.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 3/2/15 at 9:48 am to
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She were to care for a patient....would the family judge her like those in this thread who say it was all her fault she got Ebola? Would it bring unnecessary attention to herself as a nurse? Would people always want to talk about that time with her?


How many people do you honestly think could pick her out of a crowd?
Posted by tigerbru17
Billy in 4C
Member since Jan 2009
10237 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 9:50 am to
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How many people do you honestly think could pick her out of a crowd?

The only statement in this thread I agree with you on.
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
84399 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 9:51 am to
Only a matter of time. How interesting. I can't wait to see how it turns out.
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 9:52 am to
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How many people do you honestly think could pick her out of a crowd?



So if you were in TX and have a young Asian nurse named Nina(cause her name would be on her namebadge and she has to introduce herself to you)...you wouldn't wonder at all if that was Nina Pham?


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