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re: EBR 3.13 Mill Tax Renewal for EMS

Posted on 10/16/23 at 2:01 pm to
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57428 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 2:01 pm to
That amendment has all the buzz words for an automatic tax increase. It will pass with flying colors.

This is just like the exemption for veterans last year. Literally, the previous voting cycle had a veterans tax exemption for x number of years. Then the next cycle yet another exemption for even more years. At some point, you are just abusing the tax code and trying to exempt every "group" to garner votes and pad your virtue come the next election.
Posted by 6R12
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2005
11700 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 2:12 pm to
I vote NO for any tax increase even if they say it'll go straight to "6R12" bank account.
Posted by Mushroom1968
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2023
5736 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 2:34 pm to
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EMS/Fire Department or any other facet of new taxes is not needed because the baseline spending on all of these departments is already out of control.


So if you’re an ems director or fire chief what would be your solution? I get government gives too many handouts and that plays into it. But if you are ems director or fire chief, that’s not under your control, so what would be your solution? If you say go private regarding fire/ems I got bad news for you
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 2:38 pm to
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As if the people voting for this own property.


I voted for it and own substantial property in the parish. When my 7-year old daughter was bleeding out, EMS helped save her life. So yeah, it's worth it.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 2:40 pm to
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If you say go private regarding fire/ems I got bad news for you


Yeah, my family paid a lot of money for Acadian Ambulance service until they told my grandfather it "wasn't an emergency" as my grandmother was actively septic. Private companies are only there to turn a profit.
Posted by White Bear
Deer-Thirty
Member since Jul 2014
17431 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 2:42 pm to
I understand the need for ems and the rest, my issue with all gov is once established growth occurs forever it seems, at all levels. Pull some La Legis audit reports for your local entities and look for yourselves.

A conservative would preach self reliance. Learn basic first aid, etc. I just do not see it happening from any leaders.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 2:44 pm to
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basic first aid


In lieu of emergency medical services?
Posted by Mushroom1968
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2023
5736 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 2:45 pm to
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Private companies are only there to turn a profit.


Yep, I’ve worked part time for them. I’m in Shreveport/Bossier area and don’t know much about south La departments. There’s a reason why Ouachita parish tax base is pushing for OPFD and Monroe Fire to take over ems, or last I heard they were. There’s a reason Ruston kept RFD instead of Pafford. Not only was the savings negligible, if any, there was going to be less ambulances and not even guaranteed paramedics to cover. Not only that, an ambulance from one parish goes on a call, you take away an ambulance from another parish to come “post up” They run skeleton crews, shitty equipment, and people with nose rings
Posted by Mushroom1968
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2023
5736 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 2:53 pm to
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A conservative would preach self reliance. Learn basic first aid, etc. I just do not see it happening from any leaders


Getting old sucks, so do car wrecks, and other bad situations. I’ve known plenty of “self reliant” conservatives needing an ambulance
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
28119 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 3:33 pm to
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they will come up with the money

Private ambulance services will take over and send you the biggest farking cab ride bill you have ever seen. That's what will happen.
Posted by whoa
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
5922 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 3:34 pm to
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Idiotic morons see "EMS" or "Fire Department" on a piece of legislation and it's an automatic vote, regardless of what it reads.

Or “first responder”

The property tax exemption on the ballot next month will pass easily & before long only a handful of folks will be paying property taxes because it’ll surely be abused.
Posted by Miketheseventh
Member since Dec 2017
6900 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 3:36 pm to
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Did you miss this part here? It's a renewal, it's not a new tax.

With bidenomics this could be a little extra money if it didn’t pass. All this does is release money to pay for some other crap
Posted by White Bear
Deer-Thirty
Member since Jul 2014
17431 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 3:41 pm to
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Getting old sucks, so do car wrecks, and other bad situations. I’ve known plenty of “self reliant” conservatives needing an ambulance
which is why I said I understand the need. Those who can do for themselves, should.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57428 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 7:18 pm to
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So if you’re an ems director or fire chief what would be your solution?


Be prepared because this may be a shocker but….maybe they can work within their existing budget? I know, crazy talk.
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
26277 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 7:40 pm to
Only property owners should be allowed to vote on property taxes
Posted by CEB
Member since May 2023
78 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 7:48 pm to
You must have been a wiz at math. 3.13 mills out of 52.733 total mils. A good bit less than half. About 5.9% of total tax.
Posted by Mushroom1968
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2023
5736 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 7:53 pm to
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Be prepared because this may be a shocker but….maybe they can work within their existing budget? I know, crazy talk


This may also be a shocker but ambulances and equipment costs more than it did in 1982. Also cities grow. When public wants ems to be top notch how can you do it on a 1982 budget? Crazy, but they don’t actually do mouth to mouth in ambulances anymore, we actually buy cool thingies that for that now

Eta: Isn’t this a renewal? They are working within the budget, you just want them to work with less.
This post was edited on 10/16/23 at 7:57 pm
Posted by Quatrepot
Member since Jun 2023
4154 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 7:55 pm to
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The newest voters have been trained to believe gov't is the answer. They want socialism. They are willing to pay for it.
The ones voting for it don’t have shite and don’t pay for shite.
Posted by UFCST63
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2008
551 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 8:27 pm to
If you’re gonna complain about mill rates, have you seen the millage for the library?
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