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re: F22 stealth fighters made their combat debut yesterday.

Posted on 9/24/14 at 3:14 pm to
Posted by H.M. Murdock
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Posted on 9/24/14 at 3:14 pm to
LINKWell, carrier based aircraft from US have been making sorties for some time now, as well as French non stealth fighters. F22, was not needed.




We also have air assets in Jordan. I'm almost willing to bet the 22's flew from there.
This post was edited on 9/24/14 at 3:20 pm
Posted by GeauxHard
Cypress, TX
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/24/14 at 3:19 pm to
Indeed they were and without incident. But this little situation provided us an optimum battle test to see if the F22 could be detected by advanced Russian radar.
Posted by H.M. Murdock
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Posted on 9/24/14 at 3:22 pm to
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Indeed they were and without incident. But this little situation provided us an optimum battle test to see if the F22 could be detected by advanced Russian radar.


It is assumed Russia had its own .mil in Syria at the onset with their radar....I would prefer keeping the 22's capabilities a bit more quiet. Remember, this allowed them to get a good look at the effectiveness of their counters just as we got to play with our 22.
This post was edited on 9/24/14 at 3:23 pm
Posted by jmcs68
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 9/24/14 at 3:26 pm to
Maybe that's what I heard flying over my house yesterday.



I think I saw one on display at the Belle Chase airshow years ago.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 9/24/14 at 3:27 pm to
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I think it's crazy that we've had these $100 million jets for 8 years and are just now getting to play with them.


just trying to keep it fair unfortunately the long term plan for these fine killing platforms is as a controller
Posted by GeauxHard
Cypress, TX
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/24/14 at 3:27 pm to
It is a bit of a catch 22 (Pun intended). If a Russian made radar was turned on and "painted" an F22, then we would know that they could see us. If painted, then we could try out our ELINT capabilities to see if we could jam it.

Also, if painted, that would be provocation to unleash hell on Assad (possibly our goal anyway). If we did that and Russia responded by sending up MiGs, we would want our most advanced fighter in the air.
Posted by sumtimeitbeslikedat
Vidalia, La
Member since Nov 2013
5004 posts
Posted on 9/24/14 at 3:30 pm to
ISIS thought they were seeing mirages in the sky... Unfortunately for them, they were right.

Yay Frenchies... they made a correct decision!
Posted by Vdrine
Big Bad Baz
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Posted on 9/24/14 at 3:56 pm to
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
45016 posts
Posted on 9/24/14 at 3:58 pm to
They had a lot of problems when we first got them apparently.
Posted by Drew Orleans
Member since Mar 2010
21577 posts
Posted on 9/24/14 at 4:17 pm to
Take a look at the F35. That giant steaming piece of crap.
Posted by MapGuy
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Posted on 9/24/14 at 4:26 pm to
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The missions represent the F-22’s combat debut, eight years after the sophisticated jet entered front-line service.

i'm calling bullshite on this..

i would bet that they have been using them for 10+ years and didn't want anyone to know..

and i have no problem with that. i don't need to know everything the military does or will do for the protection of this great nation.
Posted by Count Chocula
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Member since Feb 2009
63908 posts
Posted on 9/24/14 at 4:28 pm to
Map, last I heard, ISIS didn't have an air force. Why we need a $160,000,000 jet when the old F15, 16 and 18 would be just fine.
Posted by MapGuy
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Posted on 9/24/14 at 4:31 pm to
i agree.. we actually could have used some Kaplan crop dusters for that matter..

my post was calling bullshite to the government leading us to believe they just started using these jets. it's just silly
Posted by OU812
Michigan
Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 9/24/14 at 4:43 pm to
I go to Langley AFB weekly for work and the F-22s there have a gold/bronze canopy. They are a sight to see though and when they take off they make a sound at a whole different level than the other jets at Langley.
Posted by Count Chocula
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 9/24/14 at 4:45 pm to
Bet ISIS is scared shitless of their Super Cruise capabilities
This post was edited on 9/24/14 at 4:50 pm
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
20090 posts
Posted on 9/24/14 at 5:47 pm to
Not dog fighting as there are no enemy aircraft to fight.
Posted by NOFOX
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
10122 posts
Posted on 9/24/14 at 5:54 pm to
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Not dog fighting as there are no enemy aircraft to fight.


F22 not meant to dogfight anyway. It fights BVR.
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
20090 posts
Posted on 9/24/14 at 6:33 pm to
The E-18 Growlers are more than adequate to suppress any SAM or other surface threats. You mention Russian MIgs - are any based in Syria? Not that any are aware of, right? The use of the Raptor was nothing more than a look at my toy or maybe even a rotation in forces. No valid A2A threats.
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
20090 posts
Posted on 9/24/14 at 6:35 pm to
Assuming the IFF is working properly and the rules of engagement allow for it.
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