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Posted on 9/29/25 at 3:02 pm to
Posted by Dickaroos
Nunya
Member since Feb 2013
788 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 3:02 pm to
So what is the problem? Trump deleted the tweet. Has swallowed deleted his? Is Trump still claiming he’s a lefwing nutjob? No real evidence either way to confirm anything. Except a fake photo liberals take as fact.
Posted by Dickaroos
Nunya
Member since Feb 2013
788 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 3:09 pm to
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So you're going with this being a real picture of the tattoo?


Not very bright are you

If you seriously can’t decipher what that photo represents then there’s no reason to go any further. There is no hope for you.
This post was edited on 9/29/25 at 3:10 pm
Posted by ATrillionaire
Houston
Member since Sep 2008
2831 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 3:11 pm to
I blame myself.
Posted by tigerfan88
Member since Jan 2008
8871 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 3:11 pm to
Reports are he hated the Mormon church and called them “the antichrist.”

All the evidence so far says he’s an ex marine who had pretty severe PTSD mental issues and somehow got pissed off at the Mormon church. Honestly sounds like a “Christian” who viewed the Mormons as an evil/heretical off-shoot, potentially triggered by a personal conflict or issue.

This post was edited on 9/29/25 at 3:14 pm
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
39274 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 3:21 pm to
Seems like a pretty good synopsis of what we know so far

The accelerant for the fire and the reports of explosive devices make it seem a little more premeditated than a guy just snapping. I wonder if he was already planning this when that city council candidate stopped by his house last week.
Posted by Dickaroos
Nunya
Member since Feb 2013
788 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 3:29 pm to
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I blame myself.


You should it’s ridiculously simple to understand. MS13 is not actually tattooed on his skin, the symbols underneath M S 1 3 on the photo are 100% tattoos on his skin. The symbols = MS13.
Posted by ATrillionaire
Houston
Member since Sep 2008
2831 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 3:37 pm to
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You should it’s ridiculously simple to understand. MS13 is not actually tattooed on his skin, the symbols underneath M S 1 3 on the photo are 100% tattoos on his skin. The symbols = MS13.

That's fair. I don't know what the symbols mean, but I won't argue with your interpretation. Clearly you haven't seen the ABC interview, however.
Posted by Violent Hip Swivel
Member since Aug 2023
9146 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 3:43 pm to
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you know we are fricked as a country when the first thought everyone seems to have when there is the shooter of the week is whether he is a liberal or a conservative


Not just wondering about the guy's political leanings, but hoping and rooting for it to be one way or the other.

t's just one more shitty phenomenon that social media has created, and there is no going back at this point. It is what it is, unfortunately.
This post was edited on 9/29/25 at 3:44 pm
Posted by Dickaroos
Nunya
Member since Feb 2013
788 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 3:48 pm to
Please post it to enlighten everyone! We are all waiting.

I seriously can’t believe people need it explained to them like toddlers but here we fricking are.
Posted by holdmuh keystonelite
Member since Oct 2020
4302 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 3:50 pm to
Are you not a believer in gang units work database?


"2019 Identification: After a traffic stop in Maryland, records from the Prince George's County Police Gang Unit identified Abrego Garcia as a member of MS-13. This was based on a confidential informant and what authorities described as gang-affiliated clothing, which his family and lawyers dispute"
Posted by Chuck Barris
Member since Apr 2013
2980 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 4:02 pm to
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Not just wondering about the guy's political leanings, but hoping and rooting for it to be one way or the other.

t's just one more shitty phenomenon that social media has created, and there is no going back at this point. It is what it is, unfortunately.
Spectating this online feels genuinely ghoulish.

First, because you know it's just going to keep happening again and again and all you can do is hope that the next one won't be at your kid's school / your church / local shopping mall / workplace.

Second, because people genuinely are waiting with baited breath and hoping that any mass shooter is one of their side's "bad people." People on conservative leaning sites are praying that it's a transsexual with purple hair and fifty piercings who drives a Suburu with a "Free Palestine" bumper sticker, and people on left-wing sites are desperately hoping it's a sixty year-old white male in overalls with a bushy white beard and a "Don't tread on me" tattoo.

The victims are just footnotes in the ongoing political battle.
Posted by ATrillionaire
Houston
Member since Sep 2008
2831 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 4:48 pm to
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Are you not a believer in gang units work database?

I have no reason to not believe their assessment. Doesn't change the fact abt the shared picture.
Posted by Dickaroos
Nunya
Member since Feb 2013
788 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 5:25 pm to
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Doesn't change the fact abt the shared picture.


Denial is strong. Just take the L man. I almost feel bad.
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 9/29/25 at 5:38 pm to
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Clearly you haven't seen the ABC interview, however.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10195 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 7:22 pm to
This tragedy and trying to get info on it has kind of pushed the later Kickapoo Casino mass shooting aside.

I first thought it was a robbery, but after awhile the only reports I have been able to read so far indicate that the guy just shot a bunch of people including murdering at least 2 of them with no mention of robbery or any conflict occurring beforehand.

https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2025/09/29/what-we-know-about-the-shooting-in-kickapoo-lucky-eagle-casino-that-killed-2-injured-5/

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EAGLE PASS, Texas – Two people were killed and five others were injured after a San Antonio man opened fire at the Kickapoo Lucky Eagle Casino early Sunday morning.

Keryan Jones, 34, was arrested Sunday on two counts of capital murder and five counts of assault with a deadly weapon in connection with the shooting. He fled the scene but was apprehended hours later in Stockdale, which is located in Wilson County.

He was later extradited to Maverick County, where Eagle Pass is located.

Maverick County Sheriff Tom Schmerber told KSAT on Monday afternoon that his bond totals $4.5 million: $1.5 million per capital murder charge, and $300,000 per aggravated assault with a deadly weapon charge.

… The Justice of the Peace confirmed to KSAT that Marcus Antley, a retired U.S. Customs and Border Patrol agent, and Alicia Sanchez, a Dimmit County resident, were the two people killed at the casino early Sunday morning.

Posted by Lexis Dad
Member since Apr 2025
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Posted on 9/29/25 at 8:01 pm to
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Dickaroos

You're legit retarded
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10195 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 8:11 pm to
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Second, because people genuinely are waiting with baited breath and hoping that any mass shooter is one of their side's "bad people." People on conservative leaning sites are praying that it's a transsexual with purple hair and fifty piercings who drives a Suburu with a "Free Palestine" bumper sticker, and people on left-wing sites are desperately hoping it's a sixty year-old white male in overalls with a bushy white beard and a "Don't tread on me" tattoo.

The victims are just footnotes in the ongoing political battle.


Do you think this is new? Attempting to use a tragedy to score political points with gun violence has been going on for decades before social media. Social media just followed what was already happening for years but controlled by the elites in media.

Any chance to exploit any conflict between a white and black person has exploded since the summer of love, but it is also not a new concept or tactic.

When the left controls media and when they controlled all of big tech social media this mostly goes or went in one direction, and I didn’t see a lot of Dems complaining.

It’s also not new that many have some relief when shooter ends up being black as riot prep doesn’t have to begin. Many are also wanting to find out if they are they going to get bombarded by how bad white males are or will it just be a regular news report if a black, muslim, or trans. The motivations for many are not exactly as being implied in your post, and the rest finally got fed up with the one sided nature of reporting on these tragic events. If the liberal/leftist media and moderation on social media continue to be one sided the numbers of the fed up will increase.

Regardless I would rather some post tragedy finger pointing on social media than irrational violence, destruction, and looting or the pre-tragedy and post-tragedy demonization of political opponents along with the disrespect of life towards them.
This post was edited on 9/29/25 at 8:15 pm
Posted by Dickaroos
Nunya
Member since Feb 2013
788 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 8:29 pm to
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
37260 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 10:05 pm to
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Nothing new for radical insane left wing nut jobs. Pushing a narrative that doesn’t exist but yet so many ignorant people believe it! People in this very thread saw that fake photoshopped photo and immediately felt affirmation in their twisted beliefs. Then it’s proven 100% false and they still don’t really want to acknowledge it . You downplay the politicians but it is evil and easily manipulates the masses.
It appears that the MAGA shirt was the real picture and some MAGA photos hopped out the MAGA part.

Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
73740 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 10:08 pm to
Not sure why it’s relevant that he supported trump?

The guy was anti-Mormon.
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