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Posted on 1/23/18 at 11:48 am to
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42262 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 11:48 am to
Why not put the bridge at Plaq. Pt. like you show it and go east and then follow La. 30. Convert that part of 30 to interstate grade all the way to 10.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
69797 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 12:24 pm to
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Convert that part of 30 to interstate grade all the way to 10.


two words: chem plants

They don't want an interstate running right outside their gate, and they need those intersections in order to access those plants. I think 30 should be widened to 4 lanes with turn lanes, but not upgraded to a controlled access highway.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42262 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 12:36 pm to
You could easily design an interstate grade roadway with Texas style service roads paralleling the roadway.
Posted by tom
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
8750 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 12:42 pm to
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expect Capital Heights traffic as well as Claycut/Goodwood traffic to increase.

The Capital Heights whiners have already had 5 more stop signs put up.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
69797 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 12:44 pm to
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You could easily design an interstate grade roadway with Texas style service roads paralleling the roadway


There's not enough room on Highway 30 in St. Gabriel, especially around Taminco. The plant runs right up to the road and there's that big truck stop right there. There would be a really messy imminent domain fight. Plus, there's no way there's enough room by Tanger and Lamar Dixon.
Posted by Motorboat
At the camp
Member since Oct 2007
24027 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 1:28 pm to
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If you paid attention while driving Government, you would see that all the traffic is due to left turns and the absence of a turn lane.


Bull fricking shite. While left turning vehicles contribute, the buses and other right turning vehicles also contribute. Further, the way they have designed some of the turn lanes is that U turns will have to be made to enter some businesses. This is going to cause more backups in turning lanes because people are the gonna pass up left turn lights onto foster. It's fricking pipe dreams by arrogant city planners that did not do their fricking job decades ago.

they need to face the fact that this is a vehicular town and act accordingly. No one wants to bike to work in 90 degree weather.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
37913 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 3:08 pm to
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they need to face the fact that this is a vehicular town and act accordingly. No one wants to bike to work in 90 degree weather.


this is one of the main things they seem to keep ignoring.
Posted by 4WHLN
Drinking at the Cottage Inn
Member since Mar 2013
7632 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 3:12 pm to
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Bull fricking shite. While left turning vehicles contribute, the buses and other right turning vehicles also contribute.

Correct. I travel Government regularly. Majority of the time I am in the left lane as it travels quicker in general. The right lane is slowed up by people pulling out and turning right. A large majority of parking lots off government have a curb, thus causing you to slow a bit more or you will leave your oil pan behind.

I just cant see this as a viable solution for this area. Hope I am wrong.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42262 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 3:20 pm to
Build a big new interchange around Tanger

You don't have to stay exactly on track.

One truck stop shouldn't be a deal breaker either.

Think outside the box.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42262 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 3:21 pm to
They cry a river when they see what shrinking Govt does
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 3:32 pm to
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Government Street "road diet" pushed back


They just did that to a street in Germantown... Germantown Road in front of the Commissary. It's the stupidest thing... biggest waste of money on something that wasn't needed, messed up traffic for 6 months and made things a WHOLE lot worse. The word idiotic comes to mind.
Posted by SECretariat
Member since Jun 2015
351 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 3:36 pm to
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now our terrible drivers may slow some of that increased efficiency, and that's an argument, but the bus issue will destroy it fully


I agree completely!

As someone that uses Perkins Road often, I've come to realize that Baton Rouge people don't understand how to use a center turning lane. Lots of people idle into/out of it without using a blinker... stop in it while still halfway into the lane of traffic. Or, my biggest annoyance, they refuse to turn right then do a U turn when they can... no they'd rather make everyone wait for them to clear the 2 lanes and turning lane to turn left. (not as much an issue with the Gov Proposal). I often imagine Baton Rouge people trying to deal with Roswell Rd. in Atlanta. It would be mass chaos.

I have problems with a lot of the city planning in Baton Rouge (as does anyone with a brain) but what the hell is with the lack of places for CATS buses to pull over? You can time the lights all you want, but if those buses stop for 5 minutes in 1 of 2 lanes on bluebonnet it will guarantee a backup a 100% of the time on even a slow day.

Finally for the idiot that complained about expanding the interstate south, you are absolutely part of the narrow sighted poorly educated problem with Baton Rouge. Why progress if it causes us a little discomfort in the short term? Or to the people that say it will only cause more people to move south and the traffic will get worse again... yea, great philosophy ... never fix anything because it may break again one day. Awesome idea. idiot.
Posted by 4WHLN
Drinking at the Cottage Inn
Member since Mar 2013
7632 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 3:37 pm to
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Think outside the box.


This is Louisiana ya know.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26573 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 3:39 pm to
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They just did that to a street in Germantown... Germantown Road in front of the Commissary. I


Wasn't that always two lanes?

When we lived there a few years back, Germantown was trying to do something to encourage more pedestrian-oriented development in that area near the hospital. That was always going to be a difficult task with Saddle Creek so close to it.

They actually did very well with the section of Madison near Overton Square when we lived in Memphis. That area was dead when we moved there. A couple of years later they decided to reduce the number of lanes and add street parking. By 2015 or so it looked so much better. Second Line opened up nearby around 2014 or so and it quickly became a favorite for us.

I miss Memphis.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26573 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 3:40 pm to
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the "bus issue" certainly is the biggest issue with this plan



Couldn't they paint a "Bus stop" lane into the parallel parking strip? Let them pull off to the side when they stop.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
69797 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 4:23 pm to
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Build a big new interchange around Tanger


This has been floated several times, and I've argued for it.

They could connect Boudreaux and Robert Wilson Road (which also takes one to Lamar-Dixon) via an overpass with an entrance & exit ramp and use Robert Wilson as the entrance to Tanger. They could then run a road to connect Robert Wilson to Ashland Road so that exit could also be used for plant traffic and as a back entrance to Lamar Dixon.
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
49649 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 5:56 pm to
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What idiot dreamt this up? Holy frick what a terrible idea. Traffic is bad enough as it is. Can’t believe the river center would go for this. Traffic to get to those garages already backs up for miles for any major event.



The project is from East Blvd. to Lobdell. It does not include the area you are talking about.

I’ve driven around Baton Rouge for more than half a century and if you people can’t get around this town without using Government Street ( or using it as I do) than you just don’t know how to drive. It must really suck to just constantly complain about everything that goes on around everyone and their lives.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42262 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 6:35 pm to
The biking crowd says no one uses N Blvd. Why don't the bikers take that over?
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 6:54 pm to
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Yeah frick pedestrian and bike friendly infrastructure. Only the worst cities in the country spend money on that.


I don't see pedestrians and bikes stuck in traffic on a daily basis, you dumb hipster.
Posted by Lickitty Split
Inside
Member since Apr 2017
4143 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 12:23 am to
I’m not sure your last paragraph was directed at me or not. My problem with it is they say it will take 5 years but then in the next breath they say it could take 7. With the typical Louisiana road construction time always being late, I’d say it will take 7-10 years. That’s not a short term discomfort. Realistically, that’s a decade of even worse interstate conditions.

So when it’s actually completed, it still won’t benefit us any because of the increase in traffic in that 10 years. We are back to square one with all the usual headaches. That’s why you build a southern bridge that is 4 lanes total and releive the current congestion. Additionally, you remove the Washington street exit and allow two lanes to enter I-10.

The 4 lane bridge should take about 4 years as the one in W. Feliciana. That bridge cost $409 million. Let’s say it cost $500 million to do the same thing south in Iberville. Make it a toll bridge to subsidize the cost. Sell bonds to raise the funds.

Or we can do what the governor and the dotd want which is screw up traffic even more for the next decade. I think my solution solves the problem quicker and with less headaches for general public. The Washington street exit could be fixed in 6 months or less. The bridge south of BR would affect little to no one while it’s being constructed.

God forbid someone disagree with our government because it sounds like progress. My solution will probably cost the state a total of $100 million extra which would probably recognized in time saved through bull shite traffic for that decade of construction.
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