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Posted on 7/30/21 at 10:51 am to
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 7/30/21 at 10:51 am to
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Lulz. I’ve seen people with remarkably little resourcefulness grow gardens. It’s a job they gave the old ladies back in the day. My grandmother was a half wit and put out enough to feed the block.
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
14414 posts
Posted on 7/30/21 at 10:53 am to
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Everything is overblown if you watch certain media.


Yeah! How about those Youtube videos explaining the ease of a novice growing their own food.

Don't care how easy it is on Youtube designed to get clicks.

It doesn't frost, hail or have, have droughts on Youtube.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29074 posts
Posted on 7/30/21 at 11:08 am to
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You obviously haven't noticed the empty grocery store shelves that were in the Soviet Union, Cuba, and venezuela.
If it's so damned easy, what's the problem?
Well obviously the problem is people just forgot how to farm, right?

You guys are something else.
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29454 posts
Posted on 7/30/21 at 11:27 am to
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To try to say it's easy is being facetious or downright ignorant.

People have been growing vegetables for millenia. It's pretty fricking easy.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 7/30/21 at 11:30 am to
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We're just saying neither is in danger of being lost like OP is suggesting.


Should the economy crash, most of y'all would be stealing in weeks.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 7/30/21 at 11:31 am to
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It's not some hard to learn skill, especially if you have decent soil.


It takes years to get a good garden starting from scratch.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 7/30/21 at 11:33 am to
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Don't care how easy it is on Youtube designed to get clicks.


Bingo.

Spent much of my young life on farms in summer, after baseball was over. If you want to support a family on a farm, it's hella hard work and takes years to get right.
Posted by Philzilla2k
Member since Oct 2017
12554 posts
Posted on 7/30/21 at 11:36 am to
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Should the economy crash, most of y'all would be stealing in weeks.

Dead in weeks, you mean.
Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
17493 posts
Posted on 7/30/21 at 11:41 am to
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If it's so damned easy, what's the problem?


Transportation for one
Posted by Piebald Panther
Member since Aug 2020
631 posts
Posted on 7/30/21 at 11:45 am to
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If you want to support a family on a farm, it's hella hard work and takes years to get right.


And it's hella expensive to get started. Especially if you're trying to get a level of being reliant on it.

I'm currently part-timing it and not really using the farm as a real income, but just looking at the cost for equipment to expand to a sustainable income level would cost +100k.

And then there's those years like 2021 where it hasn't stop raining and growing is impossible. This year I've lost 40% of my farm income just from weather related crop failures.
Posted by Warfox
B.R. Native (now in MA)
Member since Apr 2017
3788 posts
Posted on 7/30/21 at 11:46 am to
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quote: Should the economy crash, most of y'all would be stealing in weeks.

Dead in weeks, you mean.


Exactly what will happen if you try to cross my family in that situation.

We aren’t ‘Preppers’ , but my family and close friends have had this conversation since the first shutdown and have plans for a compound ready to go on land we already own.

The fact that I’ve noticed these conversation are beginning to pop up in random day-to-day conversations with coworkers/strangers means it’s on people’s minds as a possibility less remote than it used to be, whether one wants to admit it or not.
Posted by ElRoos
Member since Nov 2017
7876 posts
Posted on 7/30/21 at 11:48 am to
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They also knew how to clean shite out of a horse stall. Do I really need to know everything they knew?


Well, when shite hits the fan...then yeah.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29074 posts
Posted on 7/30/21 at 11:49 am to
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Should the economy crash, most of y'all would be stealing in weeks.
Crashing economies, grids going down, etc. does nothing for the argument about whether people can figure out how to grow crops.

You guys are even in here talking about all this farming wisdom you gained as children. Elementary school kids could pick it up in a couple summers with gramps back in the day, but today's younger generation would just be totally lost with all the knowledge on tap?

Get real.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
19115 posts
Posted on 7/30/21 at 11:50 am to
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Elementary school kids could pick it up in a couple summers with gramps back in the day, but today's younger generation would just be totally lost with all the knowledge on tap?


Pretty much, yeah.

I do appreciate your level of trolling in this thread though
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216343 posts
Posted on 7/30/21 at 11:52 am to
You are a lazy dumbass…….
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 7/30/21 at 11:53 am to
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does nothing for the argument about whether people can figure out how to grow crops.


When you want to argue, and don't know jack shite about farming.

The world will belong to those who can simple things like hunt, gather resources. Those who store up stuff will be nothing but targets.
This post was edited on 7/30/21 at 11:56 am
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29074 posts
Posted on 7/30/21 at 12:02 pm to
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The world will belong to those who can simple things like hunt, gather resources.
Glad we agree these things are simple.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 7/30/21 at 12:07 pm to
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these things are simple


And you can't do them.

All the whining about food deserts, and you think it's irrelevant today..
This post was edited on 7/30/21 at 12:08 pm
Posted by NytroBud
LaFayette
Member since Jun 2009
5872 posts
Posted on 7/30/21 at 12:09 pm to
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Nah, squash borers make it harder for me to grow squash than tomatoes. Tomatoes have always been simple for me, not much problem with disease.

I forgot cucumbers, definitely one of the easiest


I would usually only get two to three pickings off my squash until the bores and beetles got to them. Then I started planting nasturtiums in the same hole with them. Now my freezer is full of squash.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29074 posts
Posted on 7/30/21 at 12:15 pm to
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And you can't do them.
Can. Have. Moved on to harder things.
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All the whining about food deserts, and you think it's irrelevant today..
Nobody is arguing that economies don't crash, that shortages don't happen, or that many people wouldn't starve if shite hits the fan, or any of that shite. We have specialized and we depend on each other for the benefit of all, and that creates chains that may have weak links. No doubt.

But the premise is that the knowledge and skills required to grow food is being lost, when the exact opposite is clearly true.
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