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Posted on 2/21/26 at 7:26 am to
Posted by crimsoncoded94
Georgiana
Member since Aug 2025
1975 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 7:26 am to
I dont need a paragraph to understand that literally anything is possible in this universe as science would describe it.

That means that everything that happens has a 1/infinity chances of happening.

At any given time anything is possible in this universe correct? Or will you say "we dont have a way proving that"?

How do we not? We have species all over these planet that were not here before so why did they magically start being here?
Posted by crimsoncoded94
Georgiana
Member since Aug 2025
1975 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 7:30 am to
Why is the universe patternly producing planets? Why did it create itself?

Nothing that follows the laws that we are bound to can create something from nothing. So if the universe isnt bound to laws why would it create something that is?
Posted by ATrillionaire
Houston
Member since Sep 2008
2831 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 7:37 am to
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So if the universe isnt bound to laws

Stop right there. You've already lost it.
Posted by crimsoncoded94
Georgiana
Member since Aug 2025
1975 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 7:39 am to
How do you know the universe is bound to laws outside the area we are capable of exploring and testing it?

And if its bound to laws what decided it was bound to them?

So there just is a universe that has to follow laws and it just exist for no reason?
This post was edited on 2/21/26 at 7:41 am
Posted by Spaniard
Pine Belt
Member since Apr 2011
1191 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 7:53 am to
This dimension , realm whatever you want to call it is the death realm. Everything that lives here has to die .
Theologically I am starting to think this is a prison planet and we are sent here to suffer.
This post was edited on 2/21/26 at 7:58 am
Posted by yakster
Member since Mar 2021
3845 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 2:50 pm to
Of course. He is outside of time, space, and matter. The reason for my second line.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
37987 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 4:29 pm to
quote:

I dont need a paragraph to understand that literally anything is possible in this universe as science would describe it.

That means that everything that happens has a 1/infinity chances of happening.

At any given time anything is possible in this universe correct? Or will you say "we dont have a way proving that"?

How do we not? We have species all over these planet that were not here before so why did they magically start being here?
Every single thing you typed in that post is wrong. You've failed to comprehend a single point anyone has made in this entire thread.

First: “literally anything is possible.”

Wrong. Anything is not possible. Events are constrained by physical laws. You can’t spontaneously turn into a blue whale. You can’t violate conservation of energy. “Possible” always means “possible within the governing laws.” This has been explained to you multiple times.

Second: “everything has a 1/infinity chance.”

Wrong. That’s not how probability works. Not all outcomes are equally likely. Rolling a six on a die is 1/6. Winning a specific lottery combination is astronomically smaller. Probability depends on the structure of the system, not just the number of imaginable outcomes.This has been explained to you multiple times.

Third: “at any given time anything is possible.”

Wrong. At any given time only outcomes consistent with physical conditions are possible. A glass can shatter because molecular bonds can break. It can’t spontaneously reassemble because that would require an astronomically precise reversal of entropy. “Possible” in physics is not the same as “conceivable your imagination.” This has been explained to you multiple times.

Fourth: species “magically start being here.”

Wrong. Speciation is gradual. Populations diverge genetically over time through mutation, selection, drift, and isolation. There is no moment where a wolf wakes up as a giraffe. The changes accumulate across many generations. We observe this in bacteria, insects, plants, and in the fossil record. This has been explained to you multiple times.

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If you want to challenge the argument, repeatedly demonstrating a complete lack of comprehension or capacity for abstract thought isn't how you do it.

What you need to demonstrate is this:

Known physical processes aren't enough to explain the complexity of life on Earth enough so we need to introduce an additional intelligent cause.
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
73918 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 4:48 pm to
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If planet earth just spawned from nothingness and overtime developed to support lifeforms
Overtime is to choose winners and losers.

Try to stay up here, smokey.
Posted by crimsoncoded94
Georgiana
Member since Aug 2025
1975 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 6:06 pm to
But why is the universe here? Why is anything here at all?

Theres no answer to this question. It cannot be answered.

God cannot be proven by the way I never said god is the answer.

I said I believe in a higher power. I have no proof. There is also no proof as to how the universe got here any other way.
This post was edited on 2/21/26 at 6:09 pm
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
39616 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 7:09 pm to
Yoga girl alter.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
37987 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 8:45 pm to
quote:

But why is the universe here? Why is anything here at all?

Theres no answer to this question. It cannot be answered.

God cannot be proven by the way I never said god is the answer.

I said I believe in a higher power. I have no proof. There is also no proof as to how the universe got here any other way.
We started with “why was life put on Earth,” moved through water, entropy, probability, and now we’re at “why is there a universe at all.”

That’s not a continuation of the same argument. That’s a complete reset to a different question without any effort by you to resolve anything that came before it.

None of the points about selection effects, probability, physical mechanisms, or mischaracterizations were addressed. Each time a position got challenged, you tried to widen the scope.

I wish you well on the quest to validate your beliefs, whatever form they take.
Posted by FutureMikeVIII
Houston
Member since Sep 2011
1688 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 10:10 pm to
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it cannot live forever?


The smartest life form in the earth universe according to this genius:

frickin Jellyfish
Posted by saintsfan1977
Arkansas, from Cajun country
Member since Jun 2010
10236 posts
Posted on 2/22/26 at 10:24 am to
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It seems like you're trying to fit God into human logic. Why would God, of all things, be limited to such a finite box??

God could be with fault. It doesn't need to be perfect. Why would a perfect being create imperfect objects?

I don't believe that a magician made all this with the swipe of its wand. I do believe there is something out there but it's not in a book.

Posted by warlock1974
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2015
1828 posts
Posted on 2/22/26 at 12:17 pm to
It is estimated that approximateltpy 117 Billion humans have lived on the earth, with 8 billion currently alive. If just human life would not have expired, how could the earth support that many people?
Posted by LakeSide Lovin
Member since Feb 2026
90 posts
Posted on 2/22/26 at 12:41 pm to
The answer is actually really simple.

Humans were created to live forever but through sin death entered the world. One day God will burn up this world and will create a new earth where believers in Him will live forever
Posted by Pikes Peak Tiger
Colorado Springs
Member since Jun 2023
9719 posts
Posted on 2/22/26 at 12:47 pm to
quote:

crimsoncoded94


Nothing can live forever. The planet won’t be alive forever. At some point, if life doesn’t go extinct before it happens, the Sun will burn out and the planet will die with it.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
38449 posts
Posted on 2/22/26 at 2:23 pm to
It took time for that to happen. Maybe we are working on it still?
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