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re: How has global warming affected you?
Posted on 3/23/15 at 10:29 am to Ace Midnight
Posted on 3/23/15 at 10:29 am to Ace Midnight
There were a couple of good articles in National Geographic and another pub. this month about the rationality behind science "skepticism."
In a nutshell, the strategy is to create enough noise that an issue becomes cloudy to the layman, leading to non-commitment and skepticism.
The tobacco companies attempted the same thing. However, in this case we're talking small degrees of warming over a long period. We also have a hard time relating to "global warming." It snowed and was cold in my hood this winter, etc.
In a nutshell, the strategy is to create enough noise that an issue becomes cloudy to the layman, leading to non-commitment and skepticism.
The tobacco companies attempted the same thing. However, in this case we're talking small degrees of warming over a long period. We also have a hard time relating to "global warming." It snowed and was cold in my hood this winter, etc.
This post was edited on 3/23/15 at 10:31 am
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Posted on 3/23/15 at 10:40 am to TejasHorn
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In a nutshell, the strategy is to create enough noise that an issue becomes cloudy to the layman, leading to non-commitment and skepticism.
No - the strategy is to push back at people who want to double/treble the price of energy.
Human activity barely registers on the top 10 things affecting the climate of this planet - the data has been intentionally skewed to show warming, even when cooling is occurring, then when caught, they say, "Well, human activity is responsible for the cooling, too." Too many hurricanes in one season? Human activity (CO2). Too few hurricanes? Human activity (CO2). Acting as if we're alien to this ecosystem - human beings are the DOMINANT form of life. If we frick it up and kill ourselves (hint: we're not) - then something else will rise to the top.
Humans ARE impacting the environment. We alter waterways, build structures everywhere, foul up things with our solid waste and garbage, frick up the oceans, dirty up the air and fresh water - just a whole host of dirty things - even predating the industrial revolution.
But fossil fuels and their exploitation is one of mankind's MIRACLES - it has allowed for science and medical advancements beyond the dreams of just a few generations before. We have a quality of life - that has even trickled down to the third world in many areas - where entertainment programming, computer-enhanced productivity, transportation, and comfort, have just advanced completely beyond anything we should have expected. Even as recently as the early 20th century, the average American never traveled more than 30 miles from where he or she was born. Do you know anyone that hasn't at least made a multiple state trip? Don't you know many folks who have left the country?
And all of this is thanks to fossil fuels. There are supplements but no substitutes at this point. We're simply going to take all the fossil fuels from the ground and burn them. Get over it. But, I don't want to hear how we're "burning up" the planet in doing so - everything will return to state of stasis - eventually.
Jacking up the price of energy (a big tax on the poor and middle class, by the way) is not going to change that fact or the outcome, simply amplify the misery of poor folks (who get fed by people burning fossil fuels) and the middle class (whose entire lifestyle is predicated on the presumption of relatively inexpensive energy).
/rant
This post was edited on 3/23/15 at 10:43 am
Posted on 3/23/15 at 10:43 am to tedwilliamsfroznhead
Just a general pain in the arse to deal with the repercussions of a made up theory.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 10:43 am to Ace Midnight
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Ace Midnight
Posted on 3/23/15 at 10:49 am to Salmon
quote:whats the word on beginning to regulate GHGs?
Salmon
Posted on 3/23/15 at 10:49 am to Darth_Vader
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tier 4 emissions control
frick everything about the EPA and the governments emissions standards.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 10:50 am to jimbeam
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whats the word on beginning to regulate GHGs?
I don't know. This is my first year doing it.
I hate it. Just a bunch of data compiling into spreadsheets.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 10:51 am to Ace Midnight
Posted on 3/23/15 at 11:07 am to tedwilliamsfroznhead
Very warm winter. Not sure if it's climate change related but the past two winters here have been less "wintery" than much of the Eastern USA.
Glaciers are melting, but they have been for 300 years
Land is rising due to loss of glacial ice.
Hopefully next year will be back to normal.
Glaciers are melting, but they have been for 300 years
Land is rising due to loss of glacial ice.
Hopefully next year will be back to normal.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 11:12 am to tedwilliamsfroznhead
I hate Al Gore. That's all I got to say.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 11:20 am to tedwilliamsfroznhead
Our beach is slowly disapering. The beach near the resorts is now almost completely gone at high tide. Also beach quality has gone down low. With that, resort prices have dropped and trashier people can now afford to come to my beach, making my summer all the more trashy. Ugh.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 11:20 am to tedwilliamsfroznhead
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tedwilliamsfroznhead
Worst 1st post ever. I RA'd.
This post was edited on 3/23/15 at 11:21 am
Posted on 3/23/15 at 11:36 am to lsuhunt555
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made up theory
That's not what the majority of scientists say
Posted on 3/23/15 at 11:39 am to tedwilliamsfroznhead
Anyone that says there is no climate change is a retard
Posted on 3/23/15 at 11:52 am to tedwilliamsfroznhead
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How has global warming affected you?
It hasn't you fricking idiot. Things that don't exist cannot affect me.........
Posted on 3/23/15 at 12:00 pm to Paige
I watched a documentary about it once. Wasted an hour. That is how it affected me.
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This post was edited on 3/23/15 at 12:02 pm
Posted on 3/23/15 at 12:13 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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How can a fairy tale affect me?
Posted on 3/23/15 at 12:15 pm to tedwilliamsfroznhead
We've had ice in Louisiana the last two winters and no hurricanes. Didn't Al Gore say a few years ago that 200+mph hurricanes would be the norm by now?
Posted on 3/23/15 at 12:17 pm to Lake Vegas Tiger
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Anyone that says there is no climate change is a retard
The climate does change from year to year.
Anyone that says that human beings have a significant effect on the climate is either a sheople or actively pursuing an agenda using the pseudoscience of AGW/ACC.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 12:48 pm to tedwilliamsfroznhead
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How has global warming affected you?
The warming has caused me to have to drink more beer therefore I gained weight, so global warming is to blame for my fatness.
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