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re: How will young people ever get ahead?
Posted on 5/3/23 at 10:27 am to Deactived
Posted on 5/3/23 at 10:27 am to Deactived
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Those jobs aren't being done by Roger and none of them are solo jobs
did you know that being a building contractor doesn't require that you be the same person out there digging grade beams, pouring concrete, finishing it, install plumbing, do the electrical wiring, etc.,? you can do as much of that as you want but as long as you have an understanding of what's involved and what it should cost you can sub it out and move on the next challenge?
This post was edited on 5/3/23 at 10:29 am
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Posted on 5/3/23 at 10:29 am to 777Tiger
quote:And subbing the working out to others is free? Awesome!
did you know that being a building contractor doesn't require that you be the same person out there digging grade beams, pouring concrete, finishing it, install plumbing, do the electrical wiring, etc., you can do as much of that as you want but as long as you have an understanding of what's involved and what it should cost you can sub it out and move on the next challenge?
Posted on 5/3/23 at 10:30 am to lsupride87
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And subbing the working out to others is free? Awesome!
geez, you want us to tell you how to do it and fund you?
Posted on 5/3/23 at 10:30 am to Witulo
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I will build my cabin the old way with logs and timbers the way it was done for centuries
I looked at that about a decade ago, and I would love to do it but I am not undertaking that project from here on out.
A coworker recently built a cabin on an island, I did the drawings for it and the cut list, but he had a mill do the work.
Peeling logs seems like something that would drive me mad.
Posted on 5/3/23 at 10:30 am to lsupride87
And those people come in and point out how terrible of a job you did and you have to pay them to fix said frickup or they're not moving on with the project
Posted on 5/3/23 at 10:31 am to tiggerthetooth
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Boomers got a super charged economy with the post-WW2 globalism, Millennials will have the demise of that system. Anyone who says it all be the same as it has for the last 50 years isn't paying attention.
It’s not the same but you can still do well if you are reliable and have some hustle and a bit of common sense.
I’m about to be filling a job that pays about $70k base plus 40% bonus potential (prior person about to move up, they have maxed bonus for 4 straight quarters) - relatively entry level management with little initial competency needed and I am going to absolutely struggle to find someone that can show up daily and work a basic plan.
Posted on 5/3/23 at 10:33 am to Palantir
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Inflation and stagnant wages have been a thing since the fricking 70's, but it's all the current administrations fault?
Look at Trump's tenure, and look at Retard Joe's tenure. It's really the only words I need to say to prove you're the fricking moron, not I. The sane people on this board would completely agree.
Look in the mirror there, my man. Seems like you don't have a clue what goes on in the real world.
Posted on 5/3/23 at 10:34 am to JohnnyKilroy
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JohnnyKilroy
Pull yourself by your bootstraps and wOrK hArDeR. lmao.
Posted on 5/3/23 at 10:34 am to NoSaint
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and I am going to absolutely struggle to find someone that can show up daily and work a basic plan.
We can't fire anyone because they cannot be replaced.
Our entire organization is 150 personnel short and hired 4 last year. Part of that is on layers of HR required to ensure diversity.
Posted on 5/3/23 at 10:35 am to 777Tiger
quote:Yes we are all aware of that, which is why we are arguing against the notion that a way to get ahead is to buy a fixer-upper.
did you know that being a building contractor doesn't require that you be the same person out there digging grade beams, pouring concrete, finishing it, install plumbing, do the electrical wiring, etc.,? you can do as much of that as you want but as long as you have an understanding of what's involved and what it should cost you can sub it out and move on the next challenge?
The only way that works is if:
You have the knowledge, experience, tools, and time to do most of it yourself
OR
You have the knowledge of what's involved and the money to sub it out
If you don't have either of the above, then you're going into debt while being in over your head about how to get out of it.
Posted on 5/3/23 at 10:35 am to Allthatfades
They’ll be reliant on living with parents until the parents pass away and hopefully are able to leave something for them.
Posted on 5/3/23 at 10:36 am to i am dan
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$35,000 for a Honda Accord is retarded
Why?
$3.50 for a loaf of bread is too, but I bet you bought it.
No, no I didn't. But nice try
Posted on 5/3/23 at 10:37 am to RogerTheShrubber
I'm building part of the cabin with hewn logs with half dovetail notches. Hewing is a helluva workout with an axe and a adze. However, it got me back in shape and cost very little money, but it cost a metric ton of sweat equity.
Posted on 5/3/23 at 10:39 am to Korkstand
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If you don't have either of the above, then you're going into debt while being in over your head about how to get out of it.
well then what can I say brother? learn to code? there apparently a few on here that have done it and they are sharing their experience, maybe a little of a defeatist attitude?
Posted on 5/3/23 at 10:41 am to 777Tiger
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well then what can I say brother?
The obvious, that a fixer upper isnt a get ahead option except for a select few.
Posted on 5/3/23 at 10:41 am to Upperdecker
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Boomers won’t let us go to space now. Boomers keeping space for themselves
The only space boomers care about is God’s chosen space israel
Millenials here drive through potholes while in israel the streets are paved with gold and millenial Palestinian bones
Posted on 5/3/23 at 10:41 am to Korkstand
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Yes we are all aware of that, which is why we are arguing against the notion that a way to get ahead is to buy a fixer-upper.
The only way that works is if:
You have the knowledge, experience, tools, and time to do most of it yourself
OR
You have the knowledge of what's involved and the money to sub it out
If you don't have either of the above, then you're going into debt while being in over your head about how to get out of it.
It is not a solution for the vast majority of people. Getting a mortgage on a fixer upper is problematic. Beating out the cash buying flipper is might near impossible. Having the time to do the work is the only real thing an individual can manage and if you do not have the experience most likely you will screw up more than you fix. It is a viable option in limited circumstances but the vast majority of people are not equipped to do it.
Many areas will not allow a home owner to do much of a renovation themselves. There is also that. Electrical work and plumbing as well as HVAC is almost impossible to do yourself in most areas of the country today.
Posted on 5/3/23 at 10:42 am to jclem11
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Pull yourself by your bootstraps and wOrK hArDeR. lmao.
The bootstraps on millenial boots tear when you pull them because they’re manufactured in China because the boomers made American made goods illegal
Posted on 5/3/23 at 10:43 am to SquatchDawg
Have you priced a new reliable vehicle
Posted on 5/3/23 at 10:43 am to Duke
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The obvious, that a fixer upper isnt a get ahead option except for a select few.
maybe, but thinking outside the box is a good way to exit the proletariat
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