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Posted on 2/3/25 at 9:50 am to terriblegreen
quote:An EV can get the equivalent of twice that mileage if that's your only concern, but also charging at home is very convenient and if the wife never has to stop at a gas station that can be a big selling point for some.
Why even consider an EV. What is the benefit to you? I ask because I see no benefit.
There are plenty of vehicles that get 40+ mpg. Why would anyone buy electric if you can get vehicles that get great gas mileage. It makes no sense to me.
Posted on 2/3/25 at 9:56 am to oldskule
Tire replacement much more often.
Current recharge cost at home would be minimal, but you will eventually see much higher registration costs for EVs for the government to get their cut for your driving usage since you are not paying the equivalent of a gas tax.
Current recharge cost at home would be minimal, but you will eventually see much higher registration costs for EVs for the government to get their cut for your driving usage since you are not paying the equivalent of a gas tax.
Posted on 2/3/25 at 9:59 am to oldskule
Get her a Tesla and you’ll be thinking about buying a 2nd within the year. Best car I’ve ever owned. Not close. Like comparing my old Nokias to my iPhone.
Don’t outthink the room: get a Tesla.
Don’t outthink the room: get a Tesla.
Posted on 2/3/25 at 10:06 am to SallysHuman
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My mom got a hybrid, wanted to save on gas. Her insurance shot up through the roof, negating her gas savings.
I would imagine it shot up because it was a newer, more valuable vehicle, not simply because it was a hybrid.
Posted on 2/3/25 at 10:06 am to Eighteen
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There is no way to know what battery technology, advancement and cost will be in 8 years. 8 years is a lifetime with how quickly EV tech is evolving
You’re still making a $20K bet that in eight years the piece will come way down. I mean, that’s fine if that’s what you feel confident doing. But it’s still a bet.
Posted on 2/3/25 at 10:08 am to oldskule
Mach E has great deals and solid reviews
Posted on 2/3/25 at 10:09 am to BamaCoaster
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Seems incredibly strange.
Why would a hybrid equate to more actuarial risk?
Because the scenario never happened, the poster was going for effect through a lie and people here buy the lies.
Posted on 2/3/25 at 10:16 am to Darth_Vader
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You’re still making a $20K bet that in eight years the piece will come way down. I mean, that’s fine if that’s what you feel confident doing. But it’s still a bet.
Looks like replacement costs have already come down significantly.
Battery Replacement Tesla
Posted on 2/3/25 at 10:31 am to Darth_Vader
nvm
This post was edited on 2/3/25 at 10:32 am
Posted on 2/3/25 at 10:34 am to HoustonChick86
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It drives better than 95% of the drivers out there. Pretty awesome.
Yeah, it's stupid awesome to watch a Tesla driver essentially not drive for miles at a time. There's too much space left in front of them, which teases cars to pull in front of them, and the Tesla slows down, repeat this for miles. Human drivers suck for sure, but inattentive assholes in Teslas (and the adaptive cruise control users) don't pay attention to what they're doing to traffic, at all. Teslas are up there with F250s cruising in the left lane endlessly because they're doing 3mph over the speed limit.
Posted on 2/3/25 at 10:34 am to Darth_Vader
quote:Everything can be a bet, but this is one bet I'd take every day. I'd even let you set the criteria and odds.
You’re still making a $20K bet that in eight years the piece will come way down. I mean, that’s fine if that’s what you feel confident doing. But it’s still a bet.
I'll bet that battery prices per watt-hour will be cheaper in 8 years.
I'll bet that any given Tesla battery will *not* require replacement in 8 years.
I'll even bet that the per-mile fuel/electricity cost will be even more in favor of EVs in 8 years.
I'll let you choose the bet and the specific vehicles and I'll give you 10:1 on any of them. Let me know.
Posted on 2/3/25 at 10:37 am to oldskule
Simple question, why?
Costs add up to more, and insurance as well.
Costs add up to more, and insurance as well.
Posted on 2/3/25 at 10:58 am to oldskule
If I were in the market, I’d be looking for a CPO Porsche Taycan. Or, I’d order a Rivian. The Kia EV6 seems nice as well.
Posted on 2/3/25 at 11:02 am to oldskule
Bookmarking for eventual "my EV battery died and it costs as much as the car" post.
Posted on 2/3/25 at 11:06 am to Darth_Vader
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You’re still making a $20K bet that in eight years the piece will come way down. I mean, that’s fine if that’s what you feel confident doing. But it’s still a bet.
It’s not just battery $/kWh to consider. There’s a rapidly developing secondary life for used EV batteries that’s creating a significant salvage value to offset the cost of the new BESS unit.
Posted on 2/3/25 at 11:09 am to LemmyLives
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Yeah, it's stupid awesome to watch a Tesla driver essentially not drive for miles at a time. There's too much space left in front of them, which teases cars to pull in front of them, and the Tesla slows down, repeat this for miles. Human drivers suck for sure, but inattentive assholes in Teslas (and the adaptive cruise control users) don't pay attention to what they're doing to traffic, at all. Teslas are up there with F250s cruising in the left lane endlessly because they're doing 3mph over the speed limit.
That’s not an unfair assessment. I would maybe rephrase that as “FSD plus an attentive driver who understands how FSD functions is safer than 95% of drivers”.
There are no autonomous driving systems (FSD or otherwise) where the driver is not responsible for how the vehicle operates…if the car is doing something dangerous or illegal or even legal-assholish (like you pointed out), the driver should intervene.
With things like lane changes, lane-keeping, interstate on/off ramps, FSD has been doing those specific things better/safer than most drivers for a while now….but I always intervene if it’s doing things that would irritate me if I was in another car, and I’ll continue to do that until Tesla makes the whole driving operation as good as those things I listed.
Posted on 2/3/25 at 11:14 am to billjamin
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It’s not just battery $/kWh to consider. There’s a rapidly developing secondary life for used EV batteries that’s creating a significant salvage value to offset the cost of the new BESS unit.
can attest. 3rd party EV shops are harvesting 100% functional battery packs from wrecked EVs.
there is a guy here in Brentwood TN who specializes in EVs and he has some amazing tools he invested in that can refurb these batteries, detect a bad battery bank in your vehicle (the issue is a single bank failure, not the whole pack) and for $1-$2k can swap that out for one without any issues rather than the 'all or nothing' you get from Tesla.
the more dead teslas pile up, the larger the stockpile of healthy battery packs which can definitely ease the mind of anyone thinking they'll have to replace the whole car in 5 years (which also isn't true).
This post was edited on 2/3/25 at 11:20 am
Posted on 2/3/25 at 11:18 am to Korkstand
quote:see my post above.
I'll bet that battery prices per watt-hour will be cheaper in 8 years.
I'll bet that any given Tesla battery will *not* require replacement in 8 years.
life finds a way
wrecked teslas are a goldmine for cheap, healthy battery pack harvesting in case you did have a battery failure out of warranty and only needing a single bank swapped out.
This post was edited on 2/3/25 at 11:18 am
Posted on 2/3/25 at 11:21 am to Korkstand
quote:
I'll bet that battery prices per watt-hour will be cheaper in 8 years.
I'll bet that any given Tesla battery will *not* require replacement in 8 years.
I'll even bet that the per-mile fuel/electricity cost will be even more in favor of EVs in 8 years.
How? Did we already ink a trade agreement and mining contracts with Greenland? Battery fatigue will go away, based on what, hopes and unicorn farts? And your third statement is based on AI sucking up increasing amounts of power and all those nuke permits we started fast tracking a week ago?
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