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re: In light of JFK doc release: Oswald was the lone assassin
Posted on 10/29/17 at 5:28 pm to therick711
Posted on 10/29/17 at 5:28 pm to therick711
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Posner never addresses how the guy who couldn't kill General Edwin Walker on a much easier shot with the same weapon all of sudden became good enough with the weapon to hit Kennedy twice.
That's not how marksmanship works. Sometimes I'm awesome, sometimes brainfarts cause me to miss my target. I've scored a perfect 100% on a timed course of fire, but as low as 80% on an identical course of fire within 6 months before or after.
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Posted on 10/29/17 at 5:32 pm to NC_Tigah
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. Notice shot number two is unbelievably off mark . . . . almost as if it came from a different shooter?
bullshite. It is 100% believably off the mark.
Posted on 10/29/17 at 5:48 pm to Draconian Sanctions
You can bet LBJ WAS INVOLVED
Posted on 10/29/17 at 5:51 pm to ChewyDante
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I'll say this for Oswald, if he did it himself, which I'm now of the opinion is the likely scenario at least in respect to the shooting itself, that boy was a talented shooter.
Or lucky. I've made some unbelievably lucky shots in my day, often when I needed it to count. But that doesn't mean I have the same shot patterns every time.
Posted on 10/29/17 at 6:00 pm to dietcoke7
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The kill shot, the head shot, clearly came from his front.
JFK's head goes forward when he's hit indicating a shot from behind. Then he falls backwards and to the left.
Posted on 10/29/17 at 6:02 pm to Willie Stroker
That sort of highlights my point. He's shooting the president. Totally on his game in that spot.
To really understand my point you need to read case closed. Posner wants you to believe that Oswald was an outstanding marksman on the one hand but doesn't bother to mention his previous attempt on General Walker.
To really understand my point you need to read case closed. Posner wants you to believe that Oswald was an outstanding marksman on the one hand but doesn't bother to mention his previous attempt on General Walker.
Posted on 10/29/17 at 7:55 pm to Willie Stroker
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That's not how marksmanship works. Sometimes I'm awesome, sometimes brainfarts cause me to miss my target. I've scored a perfect 100% on a timed course of fire, but as low as 80% on an identical course of fire within 6 months before or after.
I have shot skeet twice in my life, the first time it was like I couldn't miss if I tried, the 2nd time I couldn't hit one if my life had depended on it. You can't take away luck playing a big factor in any kind situation.
Posted on 10/29/17 at 9:08 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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#1 If you believe in a conspiracy then you believe that Ruth Payne was involved. She had to be since she was Oswald's connection to get a job at the Book Depository. You also must believe that Roy Truly, the man who hired Oswald there, was involved. In 50 years there has never been any evidence that either has had any connections to the FBI, CIA, mafia, or any other group conspiracy theorists point the finger at.
Why would getting someone a job mean involvement in a conspiracy? Why would giving someone a job mean involvement in a conspiracy?
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#3 The physical evidence overwhelmingly shows that all shots came from the 6th floor of the book depository. The infamous "magic bullet" presupposes that Kennedy and Connelly were seated on a level plane, but in reality we know that model Lincoln had a front seat that was sunken around 13 inches below the rear seat. When corrected the trajectory shows Lee Harvey Oswald was the only one who could have fired that shot.
There was never any real consideration that shots were fired from anywhere than the book depository and the grassy knoll, so your statement is true, but has no bearing on whether it's the truth of what happened.
The man in that front seat testified under oath that he was not hit with the first shot. The fact that there was a shot through the neck, the kill shot, and whatever ricochet the brought blood from the guy at the overpass necessitated the magic bullet. All of Connally's injuries had to be accounted for. He had one imbedded in his thigh, and another was found on his stretcher at the hospital. The other had to be the kill shot. So what hit the guy at the overpass?
They had to make the neck shot cause all the injuries, otherwise someone else was sending lead. Not a big conspiracy guy, but the fact is, someone else was sending lead.
Posted on 10/29/17 at 9:50 pm to troyt37
Magic bullet question. How could that bullet have gone through two bodies, inflicting that many wounds, and still be in such pristine condition?
Posted on 10/29/17 at 10:02 pm to doublecutter
15 layers of clothing, 7 layers of skin, 15" of tissue, a necktie knot. A rib, and a radius bone. Don't ask me brother.
An even better question I believe is how does that FMJ bullet do all of that, but an identical bullet from the same rifle fragment, blowing Kennedy's head off like a watermelon?
An even better question I believe is how does that FMJ bullet do all of that, but an identical bullet from the same rifle fragment, blowing Kennedy's head off like a watermelon?
Posted on 10/29/17 at 10:06 pm to troyt37
Case Closed forever proved Oswald to be the lone shooter. Guy was a total nut. Best Evidence is a great read on the botched Kennedy autopsy.
Posted on 10/29/17 at 10:27 pm to tiger81
Posner made more than a few mistakes and assumptions in Case Closed. I'd disagree that he forever proved anything with it.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 1:18 am to Delmore1951
Jackie Kennedy and the USSR/KGB agree
Posted on 10/30/17 at 4:42 am to Willie Stroker
quote:Not with a functioning scope
bullshite. It is 100% believably off the mark.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 4:53 am to troyt37
quote:JFK's head must have been a lot harder than ribs and a radius bone.
An even better question I believe is how does that FMJ bullet do all of that, but an identical bullet from the same rifle fragment, blowing Kennedy's head off like a watermelon?
Here's what supposedly remained of that bullet
vs the magic bullet
Posted on 10/30/17 at 4:54 am to The Boat
quote:Negative.
JFK's head goes forward when he's hit
Posted on 10/30/17 at 9:14 am to NC_Tigah
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There is at least as much evidence that not a single shot fired by Oswald hit JFK.
OMG! Where do you fricking people come from???
Posted on 10/30/17 at 11:05 am to TigersFan64
Oswald shot 3 times. The neck shot to Kennedy. The shot to Connally. I think he missed completely on shot 3, ricocheting to the bridge abutment. I think the kill shot came from behind, but not from the book depository. I think it came from either directly behind, or maybe across Dealy Plaza from behind.
This post was edited on 10/30/17 at 11:07 am
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