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re: Is a stranger more important than your children or wife?

Posted on 5/27/22 at 8:50 am to
Posted by White Bear
Deer-Thirty
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 5/27/22 at 8:50 am to
Your no sheepdog, baw.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
61441 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 8:51 am to
Are you trying to trick people into siding w/the pathetic actions by the Uvelde PD?
Posted by V Bainbridge
Member since Jul 2020
8118 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 8:58 am to
LEO and Military pledge to protect others in this manner. I am neither so in most cases no. If I am in a situation where the opportunity to take action is there and many innocents could be saved I might take action but I cannot say for sure what I would do as every situation is different and has many intangible parts.

We need to stop trying to simplify very complex issues into right and wrong ones. Life is complex and so are the decisions you have to make in it.
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
17490 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 9:22 am to
quote:

Scientists did an experiment...put monkeys moms in a room with their babies...scientists turned the heat up on the floor...all the moms picked up there babies...when the floor got too hot they all put their babies down and stood on them.


Wtf kind of experiment is this? I'm no Peta guy but torturing and killing animals just because. I am pretty sure that's illegal
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Member since Feb 2008
24354 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 9:23 am to
You are someone who doesn’t understand duty. It’s fine, most people don’t.

There are sheep, wolves, and sheepdogs. You are a sheep - 99% of the population are.

A sheepdog doesn’t protect the sheep from the wolves because he doesn’t love his family more. He does it because of his duty.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
65760 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 10:14 am to
Not in china
Posted by td1
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
3157 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 11:04 am to
quote:

"do I try to save the kid knowing I might also drown and leave my family fatherless?"


The hard truth is it’s situational, and you have a duty to yourself and your family to not put yourself in unnecessary danger. Adding to the death toll helps nobody and makes an already bad situation worse.
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
149292 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 11:07 am to
quote:

Something else to consider is *81million Americans think you are out hunting and killing minorities and want to defund your career.
hyperbole much?
Posted by ELVIS U
Member since Feb 2007
11770 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 11:33 am to
That is the dilemma that every responding officer can face. If you can't treat a stranger's life with the same passion as your own family's life, then you should not be in that line of work.
Posted by DevilDagNS
Member since Dec 2017
2968 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 11:40 am to
An armed police officer whose job it is to protect the innocent should be running towards the sound of gunfire.

He's already shooting kids, you aren't saving anyone by waiting around outside with your thumb up your arse. Someone take control, stack up, weapons raised and storm the fricking building and overwhelm him. Yea, he may get a few rounds off but he is getting put down. fricking cowards.IT WAS ONE frickING GUY.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
19203 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 11:46 am to
quote:

Now ask the same question for a 50 year old homeless man floundering in the surf.


Homeless man can't afford 30A
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 11:52 am to
quote:

If you get involved in an altercation that has deadly force there is the possibility that you might be killed


If your family is involved in the altercation, you better be involved.
Posted by hellsu
Northshore via Westbank
Member since Jan 2009
4151 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 12:00 pm to
quote:

LEO and Military pledge to protect others in this manner. I am neither so in most cases no. If I am in a situation where the opportunity to take action is there and many innocents could be saved I might take action but I cannot say for sure what I would do as every situation is different and has many intangible parts.

We need to stop trying to simplify very complex issues into right and wrong ones. Life is complex and so are the decisions you have to make in it.


You would think by now that most folks on here would have sense enough to wait for a full investigation before casting their judgements around. I sincerely doubt that you had a situation with all the responding LEO being cowards and running over each other to get away. My guess is this was an ill prepared Department that was making poor tactical and communicative decisions. No one here was on site all we have to go on is what the press is feeding to the public and they don't seem to have a whole lot. There is almost a limitless amount of scenarios that can playout in these situations. If you let Uncle Jed from up the block, barge in a scene like this with his AR-15, 21 bodies is nothing compared to the carnage a Psychopath with an automatic weapon and a stockpile of ammo can unfurl in a matter of a couple of minutes.
Posted by Vamos Brandonos
Member since Mar 2022
1021 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 12:00 pm to
quote:

do I try to save the kid knowing I might also drown and leave my family fatherless?"

There's only one answer to that question.


"Hey kid, swim parallel to the shore!"
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 12:02 pm to
quote:

I'm no Peta guy but torturing and killing animals just because.


Happens all the time for research.

Posted by Undertow
Member since Sep 2016
9045 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 12:14 pm to
Men are coded to frick as many women as possible, too. But part of being human is the ability to keep yourself in check and control yourself.
This post was edited on 5/27/22 at 12:15 pm
Posted by LT
The City of St. George
Member since May 2008
5163 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 6:43 pm to
quote:

If you let Uncle Jed from up the block, barge in a scene like this with his AR-15, 21 bodies is nothing compared to the carnage a Psychopath with an automatic weapon and a stockpile of ammo can unfurl in a matter of a couple of minutes.


Uncle jed with an ar15 should never have had time to even consider storming the building.
Posted by McCorkleJonesGOAT
Member since Apr 2022
362 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 7:32 pm to
Yep and it is pathetic.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120114 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 7:41 pm to
I’m sure a kid would be proud to introduce his father to the class on career day saying he’s the guy that stood outside of a classroom crying like pussy as 19 of his kid’s classmates were shot and killed when he outnumbered the murderer 19+ to 1. Honestly it’s better for the parent to die a hero than for a kid to have to wrestle with that cowardly legacy of a parent.
This post was edited on 5/27/22 at 7:42 pm
Posted by MEd LSU
Member since Dec 2018
3687 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 7:45 pm to
I think op was talking about Good Samaritans and not leo.
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