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re: Is Construction Management a good field to get into
Posted on 9/17/19 at 11:13 am to Duckhammer_77
Posted on 9/17/19 at 11:13 am to Duckhammer_77
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Architect here
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Starting salaries unfortunately are pretty low
I was originally an architect major, like most CM grads start in something other than CM, and was surprised how little they make straight out of school compared to other specific degrees. I have a buddy that is in his early 30s and has his own firm and is killing it but seems to me you have to own or get to partner in a firm before that happens.
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Posted on 9/17/19 at 11:20 am to Gaston
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Don’t go to college for a Vo-Tec degree...JMHO.
Your opinion means shite. 95% of companies out there will not give you a damn sniff without having a degree and most won't without cm or Engineering degree.
And how in the frick is learning basic engineering principles, basic construction principles, project management and business Vo-Tech? Explain that one!
I know you consider us engineers to be inferior to you because you have a physics degree(worthless and it's why you work in engineering), but do you consider engineering to be Vo-Tech also?
I ask because an engineer and an architect are worthless without good construction guys to build it. Good construction comes from companies with great management which is 80%+ of cases is made up of CM & CE/ME grads.
Posted on 9/17/19 at 11:33 am to lsu777
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I ask because an engineer and an architect are worthless without good construction guys to build it
this is where the rubber hits the road. The contractor's PM and Superintendent can make or break a project's success. It always seems like (to me) they have to know everything about everything on a project.
most vo-tech guys find work running a CAD station w/ a subcontractor or facilities management group. Or they get put on a crew and have to work up through the company or an apprenticeship. The road is longer and harder and lifetime earnings potential is handicapped by lack of opportunities in their 20's & 30's.
Posted on 9/17/19 at 12:54 pm to Gaston
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Don’t go to college for a Vo-Tec degree...JMHO.
Can we just disallow you from engineering/construction threads?
Posted on 9/17/19 at 1:00 pm to geauxchar
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Construction Management at LSU is ONLINE!
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I'm happy to put anyone who is interested in touch with one of our concierges who can answer any questions you have.
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So who do you work for in the department? Huemann or Dr. Berryman?
Posted on 9/17/19 at 1:01 pm to rowbear1922
We work with Dr. Williams & Dr. Berryman. :)
Posted on 9/17/19 at 1:03 pm to rowbear1922
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e: I work in commercial, it’s extremely long hours Just to clarify, what do you consider extremely long hours? ETA: because if you get into industrial it will only get worse
60 is an extremely short week. working 6 am-7-9 pm m-f and constantly being on call on the weekends. I'm trying to get on at Cajun, MMR or ISC.
Posted on 9/17/19 at 1:06 pm to camoedoutlander
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60 is an extremely short week. working 6 am-7-9 pm m-f and constantly being on call on the weekends. I'm trying to get on at Cajun, MMR or ISC.
You better still expect to work 60 hour weeks with any of those 3. We have had all three on the project I am working at different times and all three worked minimum 50 per week but, depending on the schedule, some worked well north of 60.
ETA: I'd also like to add that the commercial company I worked for while still in school never worked a minute over 40....not 1
This post was edited on 9/17/19 at 1:07 pm
Posted on 9/17/19 at 1:19 pm to rowbear1922
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You better still expect to work 60 hour weeks with any of those 3. We have had all three on the project I am working at different times and all three worked minimum 50 per week but, depending on the schedule, some worked well north of 60.
ETA: I'd also like to add that the commercial company I worked for while still in school never worked a minute over 40....not 1
I'd assume the hours would still be rather brutal. I'd hope the compensation/geographic location would be significantly better then the current package i have. If you have any contacts at any of the major BR/Houston contractors that would be awesome.
Posted on 9/17/19 at 1:26 pm to camoedoutlander
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I'd assume the hours would still be rather brutal. I'd hope the compensation/geographic location would be significantly better then the current package i have. If you have any contacts at any of the major BR/Houston contractors that would be awesome.
Pretty much all the majors are hiring (at least in the BR area). I would suggest going online and trying to find a job. As many have stated, working industrial means you will more than likely have to move every few years. Sometimes to very undesirable locations (looking at you west Texas and South Dakota).
Posted on 9/17/19 at 1:29 pm to Tigahhs97
The people I know who did it make good money, but they work a lot.
Posted on 9/17/19 at 1:31 pm to camoedoutlander
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Cajun, MMR or ISC
the majors (these and others) are always hiring...always
Posted on 9/17/19 at 1:36 pm to Tigahhs97
Long time lurker, first time poster.
LSU CM grad from late 90s. 20+ years in industrial construction. Half on the Engineer, Procure, Construct (contractor) side and half on the owner side. Money is very good but better on the owner side and more fun.
Agree with all posters - industrial is way to go for money but always wondered about the reward on the commercial/residential side.
Also correct on the travel on the industrial side. If you want the promotions and money, pack your bags. Either do it early career or have a spouse that understands this and is willing to support. The money helps if she wants to be a housewife.
LSU CM grad from late 90s. 20+ years in industrial construction. Half on the Engineer, Procure, Construct (contractor) side and half on the owner side. Money is very good but better on the owner side and more fun.
Agree with all posters - industrial is way to go for money but always wondered about the reward on the commercial/residential side.
Also correct on the travel on the industrial side. If you want the promotions and money, pack your bags. Either do it early career or have a spouse that understands this and is willing to support. The money helps if she wants to be a housewife.
This post was edited on 9/17/19 at 1:41 pm
Posted on 9/17/19 at 2:29 pm to LNCHBOX
So you get out and hate some unforeseen aspect of construction management or you live in an area where it’s unfulfilling, or there aren’t huge projects going up like you studied...or really ANYTHING that changes your specific employment outlook. What do you do?
My masters was in microchip manufacturing and I moved to Silicon Valley a month before the first dot com bust (unforeseen). I NEVER got a job in that field.
I’m a complete idiot when it comes to engineering related topics, but I did have a broad enough background to get a remote sensing job as the equipment deployment and calibration engineer.
Then Columbia crashed (unforeseen) and the funding for that Lockheed job completely dried up...so I became a reliability engineer on the space shuttle external tank project.
Then GWB shut down that project (unforeseen) and I got a job at a different facility doing fracture mechanics for a pressure systems group. They let me self educate, in a cube by myself, for 6 months until I was ready. Had my reports reviewed by a PhD PE, he gave the thumbs up and I got to work. 7 years later I impress a PE on another government site I was doing review work for and I got hired at an ME firm in Florida, working from home and on the road...
Life is frickED UP, but you can prepare yourself in college to weather the storm. Could you change from being a CM to doing one of the specific jobs they usually manage??? Better at least hope so.
My masters was in microchip manufacturing and I moved to Silicon Valley a month before the first dot com bust (unforeseen). I NEVER got a job in that field.
I’m a complete idiot when it comes to engineering related topics, but I did have a broad enough background to get a remote sensing job as the equipment deployment and calibration engineer.
Then Columbia crashed (unforeseen) and the funding for that Lockheed job completely dried up...so I became a reliability engineer on the space shuttle external tank project.
Then GWB shut down that project (unforeseen) and I got a job at a different facility doing fracture mechanics for a pressure systems group. They let me self educate, in a cube by myself, for 6 months until I was ready. Had my reports reviewed by a PhD PE, he gave the thumbs up and I got to work. 7 years later I impress a PE on another government site I was doing review work for and I got hired at an ME firm in Florida, working from home and on the road...
Life is frickED UP, but you can prepare yourself in college to weather the storm. Could you change from being a CM to doing one of the specific jobs they usually manage??? Better at least hope so.
Posted on 9/17/19 at 2:43 pm to Gaston
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So you get out and hate some unforeseen aspect of construction management or you live in an area where it’s unfulfilling
Sorry, how is this different from any other major?
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