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re: Kohberger sentencing day
Posted on 7/25/25 at 6:02 pm to Gris Gris
Posted on 7/25/25 at 6:02 pm to Gris Gris
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I'm on the 3rd episode of the Prime documentary. Those poor family and friends. The roommates were accused of all manner of things, along with many friends. Just awful!
the social media shite with this case and everything else is a plague on modern society
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Posted on 7/25/25 at 6:31 pm to RLDSC FAN
I think it’s the consensus Xana and Kaylee both fought back valiantly and received the worst of it based on the released files. Kaylee was unrecognizable, and Xana had multiple fingers almost severed due to fighting back.
The Gonclaves family and others believe there was a second murder weapon due to Kaylee receiving blunt forced trauma and a brain bleed. Dylan recounts seeing someone she described as a fireman clutching something with two hands when they came face-to-face that morning. It got me thinking that maybe he brought in a fire extinguisher as the second weapon? It’s most likely wrong, but it’s just a thought.
Maddie was most likely killed first and didn’t receive that many stab wounds. Ethan (4th) was able to have an open casket funeral because all his stab wounds were below his collarbone. Since Ethan was found dead in bed with minimal stab wounds, I surmise that he was asleep the whole time. I don’t understand how he wasn’t awake with Xana making all the noise in a death struggle with BK though? BK spoke to Xana plus Xana was heard on the Ring camera audio either crying or yelling I believe. Ethan must’ve been really knocked out to sleep through that. Can someone clear that part up for me if it’s wrong?
The Gonclaves family and others believe there was a second murder weapon due to Kaylee receiving blunt forced trauma and a brain bleed. Dylan recounts seeing someone she described as a fireman clutching something with two hands when they came face-to-face that morning. It got me thinking that maybe he brought in a fire extinguisher as the second weapon? It’s most likely wrong, but it’s just a thought.
Maddie was most likely killed first and didn’t receive that many stab wounds. Ethan (4th) was able to have an open casket funeral because all his stab wounds were below his collarbone. Since Ethan was found dead in bed with minimal stab wounds, I surmise that he was asleep the whole time. I don’t understand how he wasn’t awake with Xana making all the noise in a death struggle with BK though? BK spoke to Xana plus Xana was heard on the Ring camera audio either crying or yelling I believe. Ethan must’ve been really knocked out to sleep through that. Can someone clear that part up for me if it’s wrong?
This post was edited on 7/25/25 at 6:47 pm
Posted on 7/25/25 at 6:55 pm to sledgehammer
He most likely was asleep because of all that you mentioned. At 4 am after a party and drinking and whatever else. That’s not totally surprising.
Posted on 7/25/25 at 7:51 pm to bott18240
Yep, he likely got smashed that night and was completely passed out
Posted on 7/25/25 at 8:10 pm to RLDSC FAN
I read this in a People article online. WTF
“Kohberger then fled the scene, and likely took Kernodle's fast food order with him out the door.
That would explain why Mortensen reported seeing the killer exit the home with a package in his hands”
“Kohberger then fled the scene, and likely took Kernodle's fast food order with him out the door.
That would explain why Mortensen reported seeing the killer exit the home with a package in his hands”
Posted on 7/25/25 at 9:25 pm to ShoeBang
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The judge should say “frick you and your deal. The sentence is death”
Lawyers and their clients have been burned by this too many times. They include a clause that makes the plea non-binding if the judge does not accept the proposed sentence in the plea.
Murder trials are expensive, risky and usually result in decades long appeals. Kohberger will almost certainly get suicided at IMSI soon after the publicity of the sentencing dies down.
Posted on 7/26/25 at 9:12 am to go ta hell ole miss
I'm interested in where he ends up. It's been suggested that he could go to Idaho's maximum security prison in solitary confinement or to an out of state prison due to the publicity of the case and his safety.
I haven't finished the Prime documentary, but it's interesting that Ethan's family took part in it, but they said they were not going to attend hearings or the trial because it wouldn't bring Ethan back and there's nothing they can do about it anything going on. They were good with the plea and did not attend sentencing. So far, I've only seen Ethan's and Maddie's families in the documentary. I have two parts left to watch.
I haven't finished the Prime documentary, but it's interesting that Ethan's family took part in it, but they said they were not going to attend hearings or the trial because it wouldn't bring Ethan back and there's nothing they can do about it anything going on. They were good with the plea and did not attend sentencing. So far, I've only seen Ethan's and Maddie's families in the documentary. I have two parts left to watch.
Posted on 7/26/25 at 10:17 am to The Pirate King
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In his mind, he won. He got to live out his sick fantasy, didn't have to confess or give any details, and chose his own outcome. The media and everyone also talked about him for years.
I agree as he now himself becomes the case study he studied. It isn't out of the realm of possibility in my mind "getting away with it" wasn't necessarily the end game. A psycho like that I could totally see living in infamy, even if in prison, viewing that as a win.
Posted on 7/26/25 at 11:28 am to sledgehammer
As of today, around 300 document files have been released, but there’s 1000 more yet to be released per Megyn Kelly. The dumps this weekend have yielded some critical information so we’re likely going to get more insight in the near future. Drip..drip..drip
Posted on 7/26/25 at 11:38 am to sledgehammer
I wish we'd find out something about motive, but we'll not likely see that unless he does interviews or writes a book.
I think he was obsessed with the criminal minds and desired to commit the perfect crime, never to be caught.
I also don't think he knew how many of them were in the house that night. He may not have known how many of them even lived there. It was kind of a fluke that Xana ordered DoorDash in those early morning hours and was awake. He knew he was seen by one of the girls and still he left her alive. I don't think he expected that anyone else was there.
I think he was obsessed with the criminal minds and desired to commit the perfect crime, never to be caught.
I also don't think he knew how many of them were in the house that night. He may not have known how many of them even lived there. It was kind of a fluke that Xana ordered DoorDash in those early morning hours and was awake. He knew he was seen by one of the girls and still he left her alive. I don't think he expected that anyone else was there.
Posted on 7/26/25 at 11:50 am to Gris Gris
I’ve been thinking the same thing about Xana. If she wasn’t up to hear anything, would BK have left after Kaylee and Maddie? Or was he planning to do more to those poor girls?
If I had truth serum for only 3 questions about the case:
1. What was the motive?
2. Where is the murder weapon(s)?
3. Describe the planning and surveillance before the crime?
If I had truth serum for only 3 questions about the case:
1. What was the motive?
2. Where is the murder weapon(s)?
3. Describe the planning and surveillance before the crime?
This post was edited on 7/26/25 at 11:52 am
Posted on 7/26/25 at 12:00 pm to Gris Gris
I find it interesting that they mentioned that he had scratches on his body in weeks and months proceeding the event… Almost like somebody (female?)was fighting him off...
This post was edited on 7/26/25 at 12:01 pm
Posted on 7/26/25 at 12:06 pm to sledgehammer
I think his motive was to reenact Ted Bundy’s attack on the sorority house. Sort of like an homage but also out of sick curiosity about what it felt like. It’d be way too risky to try that nowadays so he went for the next best thing. It was a well known party house with sorority girls. It happened at just about the same time of night. Bundy killed 2 and left 2 for dead. I think he was expecting about 4 girls in separate rooms and would have liked to kill at least a couple but more if time allowed. So I don’t think any were specifically targeted just the house.
Posted on 7/26/25 at 12:18 pm to Chicken
Yes, from what I read or listened to, it was a WSU student who made that claim. Marks were reportedly on his arm, hand, and face. In that creepy shower selfie he posted the morning of the murders, I didn’t see anything unless it was on his right arm and hand. Also, he looked ghoulishly pale so maybe he applied makeup to hide the mark on his face.
Could that be a red herring because his DNA wasn’t pulled from underneath Xana or Kaylee’s fingernails?
Could that be a red herring because his DNA wasn’t pulled from underneath Xana or Kaylee’s fingernails?
Posted on 7/26/25 at 12:40 pm to Chicken
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I find it interesting that they mentioned that he had scratches on his body in weeks and months proceeding the event… Almost like somebody (female?)was fighting him off...
The documentary mentioned that a female complained about him to the Washington University Criminal Justice Dept, I believe, but it didn't mention any physical altercation.
He was apparently getting into some trouble in the dept where he was a teaching assistant. He was fired as a TA in mid December prior to his arrest. I didn't realize that.
Here's some other information. Sounds like he was losing his cool.
"According to Banfield, a letter that was given to Kohberger before he was terminated stated that he had a "sexist attitude" towards women he interacted with at the university, was "rude" to women and graded them differently to men.
The letter also reportedly detailed a timeline of events leading up to Kohberger's termination, beginning with an alleged "altercation" with a professor on September 23, just weeks into the job.
Banfield said the letter states that Kohberger and the professor then met on October 3 to discuss "professional behavior." The professor reportedly emailed Kohberger on October 21 to tell him he had failed to meet the expectations set out in the meeting earlier that month.
They met again on November 12 to discuss an "improvement plan." Another meeting was held on December 7 to discuss how that plan was going.
On December 9, Kohberger reportedly had a second altercation with the professor. His post was officially terminated 10 days later.
Phil Weiler, vice president of marketing and communications at Washington State University, told Newsweek that Kohberger had received an appointment as a teaching assistant in the fall 2022 semester, but "does not currently have a teaching assistantship and he is not currently enrolled at WSU."
"It is typical for students to receive a teaching assistantship or similar appointment as part of their PhD program," he added.
Weiler declined to provide further details, saying information "concerning a student's teaching assistantship is considered a student record" and universities were prevented from discussing student records by the federal Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act."
Newsweek Article
Posted on 7/26/25 at 12:43 pm to Chicken
And more....
"In December, professors also were informed that Kohberger had made multiple female students feel uncomfortable, according to the paper.
In one incident, he allegedly followed a woman to her car, two sources familiar with the situation told the Times on condition of anonymity.
The university did not find Kohberger guilty of any wrongdoing regarding the female student, two people told the paper.
The decision to eliminate his funding and remove him as a TA was based on his unsatisfactory performance in the position, including his failure to meet the “norms of professional behavior” in his dealings with the faculty, according to the sources.
On Dec. 19, the department informed Kohbrger that he “had not made progress regarding professionalism” and removed him from his position, the paper reported."
NY Post
"In December, professors also were informed that Kohberger had made multiple female students feel uncomfortable, according to the paper.
In one incident, he allegedly followed a woman to her car, two sources familiar with the situation told the Times on condition of anonymity.
The university did not find Kohberger guilty of any wrongdoing regarding the female student, two people told the paper.
The decision to eliminate his funding and remove him as a TA was based on his unsatisfactory performance in the position, including his failure to meet the “norms of professional behavior” in his dealings with the faculty, according to the sources.
On Dec. 19, the department informed Kohbrger that he “had not made progress regarding professionalism” and removed him from his position, the paper reported."
NY Post
Posted on 7/26/25 at 12:54 pm to idlewatcher
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same school as them
BK was @ WSU and the 4 victims were @ U Idaho.
The universities are only 15 or so miles apart.
Posted on 7/26/25 at 1:06 pm to sledgehammer
A fire extinguisher as a 2nd weapon? 
Posted on 7/26/25 at 1:10 pm to Gris Gris
I think he went to WSU as a last Hail Mary to finally prove he could succeed in something in life and to transform himself into somebody females flocked toward. Within the first week of his arriving at WSU in August, he attended a pool party and got two girls’ numbers there. The guy he went with said he communicated well, had confidence, but didn’t understand personal space. Something must’ve went awry for him that early fall with women to start his spiraling down.
I think his impending failure as a TA was the big event that sparked the change and broke him. I believe he saw the writing on the wall, and he couldn’t understand why he was wrong. He wasn’t going to change who he was (remember he has an enormous ego). I read he graded the women in his class excruciatingly hard and demeaned them every chance he could.
He was a failure at everything and now he wanted to be recognized!
I think his impending failure as a TA was the big event that sparked the change and broke him. I believe he saw the writing on the wall, and he couldn’t understand why he was wrong. He wasn’t going to change who he was (remember he has an enormous ego). I read he graded the women in his class excruciatingly hard and demeaned them every chance he could.
He was a failure at everything and now he wanted to be recognized!
Posted on 7/26/25 at 1:19 pm to WonPercent
Dylan saw someone who she said looked like a fireman clutching something with two hands with a long tube like a vacuum cleaner. It’s a wild guess (most likely wrong) with the evidence that’s available to us. What’s your guess?
Bundy used a log and a hairspray bottle
Bundy used a log and a hairspray bottle
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