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Posted on 12/31/19 at 9:21 am to Cosmo
So like 1% of companies? 
And I'm sure it happens for very high up employees but the vast majority of employees who have to adhere to standard company policies, nope.
When I worked, my company did HR consulting. We would do benchmark surveys with companies in the area (much bigger and corporately diverse than BR) and we would specifically ask about if they offered maternity leave and how they funded it. The ones that did, it was unpaid (rolled under their FMLA policy if company size required them to comply) and funded through STD. Standard fully company paid, three month maternity leave to all employees? Nope. I think eventually they might have even taken that option out of the survey because no one picked it.
That is why paternity leave is rare. It is a benefit that companies have take on 100% of the expense. Some companies find value in offering it to attract and retain good employees but again exception, not the rule. Would probably be the same if birth wasn't a STD eligible event. /cue STD jokes
And I'm sure it happens for very high up employees but the vast majority of employees who have to adhere to standard company policies, nope. When I worked, my company did HR consulting. We would do benchmark surveys with companies in the area (much bigger and corporately diverse than BR) and we would specifically ask about if they offered maternity leave and how they funded it. The ones that did, it was unpaid (rolled under their FMLA policy if company size required them to comply) and funded through STD. Standard fully company paid, three month maternity leave to all employees? Nope. I think eventually they might have even taken that option out of the survey because no one picked it.
That is why paternity leave is rare. It is a benefit that companies have take on 100% of the expense. Some companies find value in offering it to attract and retain good employees but again exception, not the rule. Would probably be the same if birth wasn't a STD eligible event. /cue STD jokes
Posted on 12/31/19 at 9:30 am to Cosmo
I think of all the med school people I know from high school, only one went neurosurgery and he was a Chinese kid who learned fluency in English (without an accent) in less than a year. Didn't speak English before his parents came over with him. He was also the only kid not identified gifted who took Calculus AP with us.
So yeah, lots of baws can do what he did.
So yeah, lots of baws can do what he did.
Posted on 12/31/19 at 9:56 am to Cosmo
quote:It was sarcasm Nancy. Calm down.
This has been a fun thread. I think my favorite comment was the baw who said neurosurgery was no more difficult than laying pipe in the oilfield.
Posted on 12/31/19 at 10:01 am to CrimsonTideMD
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NIce thought, but it doesn't work that way for a highly specialized field like neurosurgery that requires both "book" knowledge and an extreme degree of hand/eye dexterity.
This.
I took 2.5 months off after my fellowship, mainly because it took that long to obtain my hospital privileges.
Was in training and residency 8 years, then after just 10 weeks off I was rusty as all hell.
You can’t just drop surgery for years at a time, go to some seminars, and pick it up again.
On this topic - Mrs. TLC is starting a surgical fellowship in July and the first year is ALL research. No privileges. They don't even carry malpractice for her so she literally cannot practice. Just how rusty will she be for her clinical year? This seems crazy to me.
And as far as the original topic, I don't think it is crazy. We had our 1st child a year ago during her PGY4 year and she has talked lots about either practicing part time after fellowship or not working at all. Her tune changed 180 degrees once she became a mother. In med school and the first years of residency she never could have imagined feeling how she does now. Being a parent completely changed both our outlooks on our careers. We're lucky that I have worked throughout her med school and residency so while we have some debt from school loans, it isn't crippling in the long term even if she decided to never work.
Posted on 12/31/19 at 11:08 am to StringedInstruments
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She’ll stay home for six years and pop out three kids. Once the youngest starts preschool, she’ll go back to work and hire a nanny. She’ll bring in $200k+/year and laugh at proles like you.
Yeah
No she won't.
Posted on 12/31/19 at 12:14 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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Not sure how neurosurgery is that much more difficult to pick back up than running casing in the Permian
Its not. They just to tell you that to satisfy their own egos. I mean hell, brains have been around a lot longer oil drilling has.
The really good post on a forum is the one that's sooooo far out in left field that one thinks, "Surely this person's just trolling, but maybe they're that uninformed." Maybe that's truly how you feel about neurosurgery, but I doubt it. I bet you'll feel different if you or your loved one every need a neurosurgical procedure done. I can promise you you won't settle for someone that's not operated in a few years. quote:
It’s not it’s new science.
Actually, a lot of modern neurosurgical procedures ARE new science.
Posted on 12/31/19 at 9:10 pm to The Last Coco
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On this topic - Mrs. TLC is starting a surgical fellowship in July and the first year is ALL research. No privileges. They don't even carry malpractice for her so she literally cannot practice. Just how rusty will she be for her clinical year? This seems crazy to me.
I'm glad your wife's not going to feel rusty. Many do under similar circumstances. I know someone doing a 3 year medical fellowship. She's halfway through year #2. Year #2 is all research w/ a small amount of clinical coverage for others (illness, vacation, etc). In addition, she's going to be moonlighting some. She already feels a little "rusty" after only 6 months of doing research. I can't imagine how rusty one would be after being out of a highly technical field like neurosurgery for years.
Posted on 1/3/20 at 6:50 am to The Last Coco
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And as far as the original topic, I don't think it is crazy. We had our 1st child a year ago during her PGY4 year and she has talked lots about either practicing part time after fellowship or not working at all. Her tune changed 180 degrees once she became a mother. In med school and the first years of residency she never could have imagined feeling how she does now. Being a parent completely changed both our outlooks on our careers.
The same is true for me.
I used to be the first one in and the last one to leave, regularly working 65-75 hours a week. And I loved it.
Still do, but I've been whittling away at my schedule because I'd much rather spend time with my children. I hate the days that I leave before they wake up and get home after they've gone to bed.
Posted on 1/3/20 at 7:17 am to TigerOnThe Hill
My wife recently finished her neurosurgery rotations. As one can assume the knowledge base one has to have, but the responsibility and the intricacy of the procedures are on another level.
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