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re: Louisiana LEAP Test Results
Posted on 7/4/25 at 3:55 pm to YouKnowImRight
Posted on 7/4/25 at 3:55 pm to YouKnowImRight
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…no longer one-sized fits all that masks differing needs
From: No cohesiveness with each district doing their own thing and not credentialed in the latest research on reading efficacy
From: Not setting high standards.
Louisiana getting out of its own way…with strong leadership, org commitment, latest knowledge, setting high standards, holding accountable…it’s not rocket science.
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"whole group instruction"—teaching the entire class one lesson
…no longer one-sized fits all that masks differing needs
From: No cohesiveness with each district doing their own thing and not credentialed in the latest research on reading efficacy
From: Not setting high standards.
Louisiana getting out of its own way…with strong leadership, org commitment, latest knowledge, setting high standards, holding accountable…it’s not rocket science.
This post was edited on 7/4/25 at 3:56 pm
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Posted on 7/4/25 at 4:06 pm to subMOA
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Youngest has never made anything but As all through- he starts high school next year.
He’s a no shite baw- runs his mud boat all over, drives a 250,000 mile 4WD Tacoma.
17 year old Freshman?
Posted on 7/4/25 at 6:07 pm to Oneforthemoney
Everything is broken down but single vs two parent homes. I personally don’t think you would find much value in that.
Posted on 7/4/25 at 6:09 pm to Falco
I went through the scores and a lot of schools still have less than half students at grade level.
Posted on 7/4/25 at 6:09 pm to subMOA
Wish I could upvote you more!!
Posted on 7/4/25 at 8:00 pm to Falco
I appreciate your opinion, but you and I will just have to disagree. The higher performing districts cheat and manipulate just as bad if not worse. SPS and accountability, while in premise is good, has taken the focus off the students. Public education is not about the kids any longer. I hate to say that because that is why I went into public education 30 years ago.
Posted on 7/4/25 at 8:25 pm to Oneforthemoney
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I would like to see what louisiana's rank would be if it's just whites, then just blacks, then just Hispanics, then asians. Then do the same by race with single parent households and then two parent households. Then we can see who is dragging the state down. I would then like to see that done to the states that lead the US. Like top 5 states
I would have to look to find the data, but when the NAEP came out, one researcher did exactly that, and the top three were:
1) Massachusetts
2) Mississippi
3) Louisiana
In other words, if you correlate for ethnicity and socio-economic level, then this is the ranking you'd get. If you are a black kid in a household with an income of $50k, then you would expect to get the best education in Massachusetts, and then Mississippi, and then Louisiana. If you are a white kid in a household with an income of $65k, then you'd expect that the same three states would provide the best education for you.
Mississippi and Louisiana are changing a lot of the discussion about education at the national level. Louisiana was basically the only state that moved up in the NAEP last year. Probably the single biggest part of it is that we are teaching "the science of reading" (also known as phonics), but the fact that our COVID shutdowns were shorter than much of the rest of the country is also a contributing factor. The new School Performance Score system going into place this coming year is going to further accelerate progress.
I teach at an "F-rated" school, and this is the first time since the pandemic that I am genuinely excited about the upcoming school year and the progress that we're going to make.
Posted on 7/4/25 at 11:12 pm to subMOA
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Wants to work in finance.
Not a lot of options in LA.
Posted on 7/4/25 at 11:15 pm to YouKnowImRight
I was afraid this was the case. LEAP is hardly independent.
Posted on 7/4/25 at 11:21 pm to lsugal432
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Everything is broken down but single vs two parent homes. I personally don’t think you would find much value in that.
then you’re either deliberately not familiarizing yourself with the data, or are aware of it and still outright lying.
the percentage of two parent households in a given area is the single best indicator of education results in America. it’s not even close. more than income, more than funding, more than special programs, more than anything. again, it’s not even close.
and that’s just for public education. every other measurable statistic(crime, divorce, alcohol/drug abuse) outpace literally everything.
this isn’t a debate anymore, it’s whether you have the stomach to look the issue in the face or not
This post was edited on 7/4/25 at 11:22 pm
Posted on 7/5/25 at 6:31 am to YouKnowImRight
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know a LOT of public school elementary teachers. Not one of them believe these scores are legitimate. They are all ready to retire
The teachers who hate LEAP and the SPS are the ones who think that they shouldn't have to really teach and that they should be able to just do whatever fun activities they want to do in the classroom. They should absolutely retire. We still have too many teachers, especially elementary teachers, who don't actually teach what they are supposed to teach.
Posted on 7/5/25 at 12:05 pm to WinnPtiger
The divorce rate in America is 40-50%. Women are choosing to have kids by themselves due to aspirations of careers first than marriage. Sometime marriage doesn’t come. I can look around my neighborhood and my children’s schools to see lots of kids from single parent homes flourishing. Now the LEAP scores are broken down with an economically disadvantaged category. This would be more in line with the correlation discussed above. It’s broken down per parish, school, race, income, and gender.
Posted on 7/5/25 at 2:00 pm to GOP_Tiger
quote:Yep and I call absolute bullshite
I would have to look to find the data, but when the NAEP came out, one researcher did exactly that, and the top three were: 1) Massachusetts 2) Mississippi 3) Louisiana
There is no way, if demographics are controlled, Louisiana has a better education system than New Hampshire and Vermont and Colorado etc.
Yes our demographics hurt our scores, absolutely, but we also have very bad public schools and public structure in general overall
This post was edited on 7/5/25 at 2:03 pm
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