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re: Marine Corps eyes gender-integrated basic training
Posted on 12/17/19 at 10:13 am to Lima Whiskey
Posted on 12/17/19 at 10:13 am to Lima Whiskey
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If anything, the Marines Corps study was generous.
They spent a year and $30 million on it. Of course Mabus the cuck disregarded it anyhow.
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Posted on 12/17/19 at 10:24 am to Upperdecker
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don't lower any standards, it will sort itself out
Why yes it would.
Posted on 12/17/19 at 10:31 am to TigerFanInSouthland
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“Rather than invest in another study about whether or not the Marine Corps legacy will be disrupted [by integrating basic training], maybe we should be studying the value women present to the military instead,” she said.
If you have to do a study................
Posted on 12/17/19 at 10:31 am to TigerFanInSouthland
What is happening to my beloved Corps?
Posted on 12/17/19 at 10:39 am to upgrayedd
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I won't mince words on this.
There is absolutely no "equality" around today that is about being equal. It's about receiving special rights and privileges.
A male marine has to do 20 dead hang pull ups to max out on the pft. A female only has to do...7. #Equality
Posted on 12/17/19 at 10:41 am to Korin
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A male marine has to do 20 dead hang pull ups to max out on the pft. A female only has to do...7. #Equality
But I was told by SJWs that there's no biological difference between men and women
Posted on 12/17/19 at 10:45 am to Placebeaux
Mackenzie Bezos = 40 Billion from divorce
I'd hit it.
If it didn't work out, she could have half of my $3.50
I'd hit it.
If it didn't work out, she could have half of my $3.50
Posted on 12/17/19 at 10:47 am to Lima Whiskey
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You don’t get it.
The breakdown in unit cohesion is the even bigger problem.
Discipline collapses.
And a third of the unit is out for medical reasons at any one time.
I get it, I think there's part you are missing though.
This incrementalism is going to keep increasing unless you come up with a better idea than just saying "no". You either have to channel it into a less destructive direction or you will continue to get slowly eaten alive from the inside.
Give them a path but do not lessen the requirements (and have brass willing to stick to those requirements) and frame it as "competing on a man's level, if you can". I believe this would go much further in defusing the incrementalism than just simple resistance.
This post was edited on 12/17/19 at 11:29 am
Posted on 12/17/19 at 10:57 am to jbgleason
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they will be screwing like rabbits
This actually happened during my basic at Ft. Leonard Wood.
Male and female in my squad were caught fricking and Drill made a complete show of it.
Had us standing outside on the pad in front of the barracks, we could hear him ripping them a new one. He has them run outside to the back of our formation.
"Company, Attention!!! About Face!!! Charlie Company, wave bye bye!!!"
We all waved bye to the two of them. Girl starts bawling, old boy took it well. Never knew what happened to them.
But you are right, after two months, I wanted to frick anything with legs, and we had some she dogs in our unit that started looking real good
Posted on 12/17/19 at 11:00 am to jbgleason
You are right bud. This crap doesn’t work in real life. It’s not the same as men and women working together professionally in a conference room setting. I was on active duty during the first gulf war, and there is no avoiding the SEX and DRAMA and fallouts that you get from sticking young women in combat environments with young men. I personally saw relationships go south, and careers end abruptly. One girl ended my friends career when he broke up with her. She got pissed and claimed he sexually harassed her, when we all knew they were slipping around every corner to bang like wild animals.
Posted on 12/17/19 at 11:55 am to Bard
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This incrementalism is going to keep increasing unless you come up with a better idea than just saying "no". You either have to channel it into a less destructive direction or you will continue to get slowly eaten alive from the inside.
Give them a path but do not lessen the requirements (and have brass willing to stick to those requirements) and frame it as "competing on a man's level, if you can". I believe this would go much further in defusing the incrementalism than just simple resistance.
There’s so much wrong with this that it’s insane. Saying “no” to their repeated idiocy is the only acceptable answer.
Our military is vastly weaker as a fighting force with women involved in any capacity and in combat arms especially.
Posted on 12/17/19 at 11:58 am to HuskyPanda
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had some she dogs in our unit that started looking real good
We called them desert dimes in Iraq
Posted on 12/17/19 at 12:05 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
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Saying “no” to their repeated idiocy is the only acceptable answer.
How has that worked out thus far?
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Marine Corps Quietly Drops Major Obstacle to Female Infantry Officers
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Our military is vastly weaker as a fighting force with women involved in any capacity and in combat arms especially.
Which means your "only acceptable answer" isn't working.
Posted on 12/17/19 at 12:06 pm to Bard
So your answer would be to further allow them access?
You said in a previous post that the higher ups would have to stay strict to the standards set. When have they proved to do that?
No is the only acceptable answer to women in the military and always will be. Just because some fricking bleeding heart idiots in DC kept pissing and moaning about the inequality of it so much that the weak generals relented and allowed them in doesn’t mean that no isn’t the right answer.
The only acceptable answer that would ever work is no. We have political pawns and politically motivated hacks and not leaders in control of the military today. Otherwise, they’d say frick no to this type of thing.
You said in a previous post that the higher ups would have to stay strict to the standards set. When have they proved to do that?
No is the only acceptable answer to women in the military and always will be. Just because some fricking bleeding heart idiots in DC kept pissing and moaning about the inequality of it so much that the weak generals relented and allowed them in doesn’t mean that no isn’t the right answer.
The only acceptable answer that would ever work is no. We have political pawns and politically motivated hacks and not leaders in control of the military today. Otherwise, they’d say frick no to this type of thing.
This post was edited on 12/17/19 at 12:13 pm
Posted on 12/17/19 at 12:07 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
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Marine Corps eyes gender-integrated basic training
Do you want a rampant hormonally fueled frickfest? Because that’s how you get a rampant hormonally fueled frickfest.
Posted on 12/17/19 at 12:14 pm to YawBaw7
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What is happening to my beloved Corps?
In the end, nothing. They try and prove themselves right, and end up proving the logical folks right. The backlash if they attempted to lower standards to boost pass rates would be too great.
Posted on 12/17/19 at 12:21 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
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So your answer would be to further allow them access?
My answer would be to channel their access through the same requirements the men have to meet but in separate groups. No special considerations given, they either make it or they do not. At the end of something like a 5-year period you tally the results and then present them as a metric of overall benefit/detriment having women is to the military overall.
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You said in a previous post that the higher ups would have to stay strict to the standards set. When have they proved to do that?
That's really the big problem. The only real solution I can see for that is an EO mandating various requirements and that they are not subject to change. The problem there is one EO can overrule a previous one so the moment we get another Bill or Barry in office, that could go right back out the window.
What I do know is that the mindset you're fighting against will fight harder when they are told "no" than they will if they are told "okay, but it's going to be really difficult".
Posted on 12/17/19 at 12:21 pm to Montezuma
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The backlash if they attempted to lower standards to boost pass rates would be too great.
Hasn’t seemed to be that way for the Army.
Posted on 12/17/19 at 12:26 pm to Bard
And your answer is to quut trying?
Posted on 12/17/19 at 12:27 pm to Bard
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What I do know is that the mindset you're fighting against will fight harder when they are told "no" than they will if they are told "okay, but it's going to be really difficult".
Why do you tell your children no? Because it’s for their own good, right? And you don’t relent on that stance.
It’s the same thing with these children, you tell them no and keep that stance no matter how much they gnash their teeth and throw a tantrum. You’re the expert, not them.
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